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Gangs might use the war as an opportunity to supplant the highly-stressed civilian government, and begin to exercise control over the home front. Something like what gangs have done in Central America, without even a war being necessary to emasculate the establishment. The gangs would be a useful and formidable defense force for the duration, exercising some ad-hoc civil defense organizational authority, but might be hard to pry out of city hall when it's over.
It's my understanding that this is essentially what happened in El Salvador, during their civil war and disorder in the 80s. Wh en the smoke cleared, gang turf had quite a bit of immunity to the new government's regulation, control or policing.
Americans talk tough but most would roll over in no time. Hell, this is a nation where people wear helmets riding BICYCLES and in many places you can't even smoke in a tavern, we put up with that, we'll put up with anything. As long as our conquerors let us keep Ipods and bottled water and supply the coopted elites with German automobiles we'd go along.
And gangs? These guys are more about bravado than courage, killers rather than fighters. A well disciplined and ruthless army would dispose of them in short order.
A defensive war with us against the World? Our high tech military depends on so many materials we import or have made out of country. The 200 million armed citizens would need to take up the slack for our high tech military after a few months. Could the rest of the World put a 100 million man armed people on our soil? Could they feed them after they landed? I think our civilians could make it so costly the rest of the World would give it up.
The USA against the rest of the World? We would lose.
As long as the American liberal media was there to spin every story into the shocking and violent atrocities committed by US troops against our our valiant so-called "enemies" (who were, after all, simply asserting their rights to protest against America's patriarchal, racist, sexist, homophobic ruling class), any invader would stand a pretty good chance.
The leftist U.S. media-entertainment complex learned its lessons well as it cheered on our enemies in Vietnam, and painted our own veterans as blood-thirsty, drug-addicted war criminals. It is now a valuable potential tool for any enemy of our country.
They would be lined up and shot for collaboration within a week Yeledaf. I wonder how long the line for volunteers wanting to be on the firing squad would be. I am sure there is a list somewhere. LOL.
GL2
Americans talk tough but most would roll over in no time. Hell, this is a nation where people wear helmets riding BICYCLES and in many places you can't even smoke in a tavern, we put up with that, we'll put up with anything. As long as our conquerors let us keep Ipods and bottled water and supply the coopted elites with German automobiles we'd go along.
And gangs? These guys are more about bravado than courage, killers rather than fighters. A well disciplined and ruthless army would dispose of them in short order.
Good point Irish Tom.
This is an interesting exercise but the reality is that the biggest threats to the United States are internal.
GL2
Americans talk tough but most would roll over in no time. Hell, this is a nation where people wear helmets riding BICYCLES and in many places you can't even smoke in a tavern, we put up with that, we'll put up with anything. As long as our conquerors let us keep Ipods and bottled water and supply the coopted elites with German automobiles we'd go along.
And gangs? These guys are more about bravado than courage, killers rather than fighters. A well disciplined and ruthless army would dispose of them in short order.
Well, in WW2 there was "a rifle behind every blade of grass"... now there are 3.
Apparently we bought enough guns and ammo in the three months after Obama came to office to completely arm the Indian and Chinese Military Americans Buy Enough Guns in 3 Months to Outfit the Entire Chinese and Indian Army, and that was on top of everything we already had. So with the world's most powerful military and the world's most armed civilian population against them, I don't think the rest of the world could do it.
The only way to successfully take the North American Mainland by force would be with massive attacks using WMDs and to not be destroyed by our WMD's in the process (of which we keep enough handy to destroy the rest of the world several times over.)
I think I could pull it off but it would take 20years.
I would literally human wave the USN, their ports and shipyards with convential ICBM's cruise missles....and hit cities with incendiaries and metal stripping to destroy electrical grids.
I would need to try to close off the south atlantic via long range bombers etc. and massed missle strikes on US naval assets.
If that works and eventually it will grind them down....I will pump crap loads of men and supplies in south america and then invade via land through Mexico.
Losses will of course be horrific, but quantity has a quality all it's own.
Americans talk tough but most would roll over in no time. Hell, this is a nation where people wear helmets riding BICYCLES and in many places you can't even smoke in a tavern, we put up with that, we'll put up with anything. As long as our conquerors let us keep Ipods and bottled water and supply the coopted elites with German automobiles we'd go along.
And gangs? These guys are more about bravado than courage, killers rather than fighters. A well disciplined and ruthless army would dispose of them in short order.
You know, the Japs and Germans said that once too... We may seem fat, lazy bastards when there is nothing worth fighting for, but when we get truly angry and see our personal worlds in actual danger, we become kinda like grizzly bears on PCP that are armed with quad miniguns and chainsaw claws.
That same strength grandma and grandpa pulled out of nowhere in 1941 is still with us.
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