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Old 05-10-2012, 04:57 AM
 
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BBC News - Nazi medical experiment victims laid to rest in Vienna

"It was a sombre ceremony - that came many years too late. The remains of the last known victims of Nazi medical experiments in Vienna, a group of more than 60 people, have finally been buried at a ceremony in the city's central cemetery."
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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Thank you for sharing.

The part that strikes me is this: "Specimens from their brains and bodies had been used for medical research, not just during the Nazi era, but for many years after the war."

Seriously?!
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:17 PM
 
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It's amazing that we didn't Raize Germany and Japan to the ground at the end of WW2
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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It's amazing that we didn't Raize Germany and Japan to the ground at the end of WW2
For all intents and purposes we pretty much did.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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Thank you for sharing.

The part that strikes me is this: "Specimens from their brains and bodies had been used for medical research, not just during the Nazi era, but for many years after the war."

Seriously?!
It is questionable. Obviously the results of the Nazi testing was scientifically unethical, and for the most part unscientific in the extreme so most/many consider the research data as being useless. Work that was deemed worthwhile of consideration were the Nazi experiments in treating hypothermia, but due to the stigma attached to that research peer reviewed journals have often/always refused to publish any papers that make reference to them.


Jewish Law - Articles ("The Ethics Of Using Medical Data From Nazi Experiments")
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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For all intents and purposes we pretty much did.
Our chosen approach to rebuild from the ruins rather than leave a wasteland was due to two things. One was politics. The Red Menacy had begun. Japan was strategically located. We needed a friendly government which wouldn't fall. We conviently forgot much more war crimes in Japan than in Germany since we got to them second. People were tired of hearing about it, the had been redirected to fear the horrible Reds. And all Japanese names and faces looked the same.

The first German prosecutions were full speed ahead, but at the end, with lesser people, much was excused with a slap on the hand. There was even a coverup of atrocities. The few remaining survivors of the 350 American POW's who were hauled off to a satalite camp of Buchenwald in 1945, costing the lives of over half in two months, and scarring the rest for life, was 'apologised for' in the 90's. The survivors were forced to sign a secrecy document lest it get out (for the direct abuse of american pow's would have hit far more sensitive ears). Politics won.

The other reason was simple. WWI. We let Germany rot as punishment. We got Adoph. The lesson was plain. An ally with no reason to follow madmen is far preferable to one which smolders.

And the Germans have faced their past. The Japanese have not. That is perhaps why we have far more trust in German now than Japan.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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It is questionable. Obviously the results of the Nazi testing was scientifically unethical, and for the most part unscientific in the extreme so most/many consider the research data as being useless. Work that was deemed worthwhile of consideration were the Nazi experiments in treating hypothermia, but due to the stigma attached to that research peer reviewed journals have often/always refused to publish any papers that make reference to them.


Jewish Law - Articles ("The Ethics Of Using Medical Data From Nazi Experiments")
I remember reading about the work on hypothermia a maybe thirty years ago. It was being used, but carefully. The thing was, the results were a complete surprise. Science and medicine, given a guess or 'standard' treatment, would have reversed it. I don't remember the medical results, but the article was about the continuing question of ethics, when not only did German soldiers benefit, but it changed the way things were done. That so many others have lived since who might not have, does this give some repayment for those who so cruely died?
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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Horrible, absolutely horrible...


R.I.P.
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