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Old 06-10-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Before US history, pre-colonial West Africa was very primitive, geographically isolated from the outside world and even from other parts of Africa Sub-Saharan Africa. There was no need for develop agriculture as there was enough to eat and the other necessities of life were abundant. There was no unifying political power on a large scale. The history in this part of Pre-colonial Africa that was learned was a verbal history - passed down from generation to generations. Records were not kept. There were many tribes. Most men were hunters gatherers. Woman natually took care of babies. Men dominated the tribe culture. Very interesting.

Based on what we know, what were some more of the day to day specifics for the natives in Pre-Colonial West Africa?

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Old 06-11-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Pygmies - The Children Of The Jungle - YouTube

This is more Central Africa but certain places in pre-colonial Africa 500-1000 years ago resembled a few scenes in this video.

Such a diverese place Africa was. It would be interesting to know what some people were like in more detail hundreds of years ago in West Africa. Much is not known.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Before US history, pre-colonial West Africa was very primitive, geographically isolated from the outside world and even from other parts of Africa Sub-Saharan Africa. There was no need for develop agriculture as there was enough to eat and the other necessities of life were abundant. There was no unifying political power on a large scale. The history in this part of Pre-colonial Africa that was learned was a verbal history - passed down from generation to generations. Records were not kept. There were many tribes. Most men were hunters gatherers. Woman natually took care of babies. Men dominated the tribe culture. Very interesting.

Based on what we know, what were some more of the day to day specifics for the natives in Pre-Colonial West Africa?
Thats your white racist ideology blinding you from the truth.West Africa was NOT primitive then and its not primitive NOW.Now let me know if you need me to school you and help expand your albino brain.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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West Africa wasn't hunter gatherer, the Bantu peoples developed agriculture thousands of years ago and perfected the production and smithing of iron independently of other iron age peoples around 500BC. When Europeans reached West Africa it was mostly composed of agrarian towns, with a few coastal cities. Yams were one of the main staples of West African farms. Most of the area was independent tribes linked to each other through sometimes very hard to understand foreign concepts. There were indeed many kingdoms in West Africa and some important coastal cities. Although more Central Africa, Kongo was a vast and powerful empire. The Kingdoms of West Africa produced remarkably beautiful wooden statues, often for Royalty, that sit in many of the world's great art museums. Some of the societies also invented forms of currency and writing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...olonial_Africa

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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Before US history, pre-colonial West Africa was very primitive, geographically isolated from the outside world and even from other parts of Africa Sub-Saharan Africa. There was no need for develop agriculture as there was enough to eat and the other necessities of life were abundant. There was no unifying political power on a large scale. The history in this part of Pre-colonial Africa that was learned was a verbal history - passed down from generation to generations. Records were not kept. There were many tribes. Most men were hunters gatherers. Woman natually took care of babies. Men dominated the tribe culture. Very interesting.

Based on what we know, what were some more of the day to day specifics for the natives in Pre-Colonial West Africa?
Wow, I still can’t believe these types of ignorant assumptions are still proliferating from the minds of the euro-centric. With a name like historyBooks I would think that you would be well versed in history.

Ancient Africa's Black Kingdoms
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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Thats your white racist ideology blinding you from the truth.West Africa was NOT primitive then and its not primitive NOW.Now let me know if you need me to school you and help expand your albino brain.
I hear you man. Knocking down all this euro-centric misinformation is like playing whack a mole...
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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I agree. The OP was far too misinformed to make a good post. This topic just should be locked.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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I agree that the OP was way offbase. If they are limited to only studying this from a European perspective, who do they believe the people that Portugese and other European explorers were trading and establishing trade posts with in the 15th century? Arab traders had been interacting with these civilizations since the 7th century and there were full blown "Arab quarters" in many of the cities in West Africa. The main reason for European exploration was to cut the "Arab middlemen" out of trade with India, China and Africa. The area has been settled since around 12,000BC with full fledged farming and cattle domestication by around 5,000BC. Iron working was in full evidence by 500-400BC and they were forming full fledged city-states. By the time the Europeans showed up, West Africa contained several powerful empires and confederacies. These are the people the Europeans were trading with and the African empires became quite wealthy acting as middlemen in both the Trans-Saharan and Trans-Atlantic trades.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Before US history, pre-colonial West Africa was very primitive, geographically isolated from the outside world and even from other parts of Africa Sub-Saharan Africa. There was no need for develop agriculture as there was enough to eat and the other necessities of life were abundant. There was no unifying political power on a large scale. The history in this part of Pre-colonial Africa that was learned was a verbal history - passed down from generation to generations. Records were not kept. There were many tribes. Most men were hunters gatherers. Woman natually took care of babies. Men dominated the tribe culture. Very interesting.

Based on what we know, what were some more of the day to day specifics for the natives in Pre-Colonial West Africa?



West Africa and in particular the Niger River Valley and the Sahel a grassland that extends from the Atlantic in Senegal to the Nile Valley was home to a high civilzation that in many aspects exceeded Western Europe of the same period. c. 1000 AD Several empires Ghana, Mali and Songhai arose in the Niger Valley in sucession and Ghana adopted Islam about the same time Islam moved into Spain. Timbuktu was the great city on the Niger and it had one of the Best Universities in the Islamic World. Some of the greatest writting and history in Arabic was written by a scholar Ibn Battua who was born and educated in Timbuktu. These polities collapsed and dies out at the same time the Little Ice Age was chilling Europe and study of climate in Africa indicates that the Sahel was hit by a drought that lasted more than a century and caused the Sahara to advance as far south as Timbuktu. So Agriculture along the Niger failed.

When a British explorer named Mungo Jerry went into interior in the late 18th century and "discovered" the Niger River all that remained were impoverised villages and a few towns of mud bricks. That and stories he thought we fantasy about a great King and his Empire.


Records were kept in Africa because Africans invented writting in somes cases before it appeared in Europe.
Good examples are Egypt, the African kingdom south of Egypt called Kush. Kingdomes like Buganda and Zimbabwe. and numerous knigdoms like the Ashanti, Benin and Oyo and Ife in Yorubaland. Areas like the North Africa , Sahel and Eastern Coastal Africa. Adopted Arabic and its script with Islam in some cases before 750 AD. The written records exist for scholars who knows where to go to find them in the Middle East. A good place is the Islamic Universities in Cairo, Morrocco and Oman and the Persian Gulf. Some are kept on Zanzibar and places like Mobassa. Records in Amarhic are kept in Ethiopia. In Copt in Egypt.

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Old 06-16-2012, 02:44 AM
 
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This is not about North African, Arab or Muslim history. I was writing about the areas of Sub Saharan Africa in it's crudest state hundreds of years ago.

There are ancient Arab history texts that descibe Sub Saharan Africa.
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