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This is a fascinating thread - depressing, certainly but fascinating. It is still hard for me to even understand how there are so many who believed this holocaust never happened. Staggering to me that there are those who believe that historians simply have made it up. And, still, to this day, in my opinion, too many leaders / companies / countries disavow any responsibility or their contributions to these horrors.
France, Italy, the Swiss, bavarian countries - Spain - such a long list.
I have not thought of this movie for years - The Odessa File - SS leaders from a myriad of countries, post-war, hiding, yet still proclaiming justification and appropriateness of slaughtering.
Where does such hatred and vile come from -- being different / needing scapegoats / and incredible propaganda to blame.
Semitic means wanderer - antisemitic is to be against wanderers - lots of middle easterners were, way back, wanderers. Why were Jewish 'wanderers' primarily targeted?
'Wanderers' was referenced way back in biblical times --
Although I truly cannot believe that we as a society could / would ever create another holocaust, given the current flavor of bias, fear, prejudice, and peppered brainwashing and propaganda that is on the news these days, I would at least hope not.
We should certainly have learned something by now.
Sorry if I went off topic, a bit. []
Oh, it could come to that again, as we lose rights. We let the media spread panic, and make it easy to brand people as outcasts, with NO EVIDENCE of a crime, then put their names and addresses on public registries, signs in their yards, keep them from being employed, tell them where they can and can't live, etc.
And we all say, "they brought it on themselves"...and I guess their families are included in that too.
We do that now, with certain segments of society and call ourselves "justified"
After all, the general public loves a scapegoat. It was once witches, if I recall...or rather, those ACCUSED of witchcraft
Why don't you just admit that antisemitism existed in ancient Egypt, Greece and pre-Christian Rome so we can put to rest the theory that antisemitism was created by followers of certain Jewish carpenter?
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Originally Posted by erasure
You THINK you know, but in reality a lot of your knowledge is half-baked and has a big part of projections.
So one more time - do your homework.
That's just offensive talk which I noticed is your typical response when you lack arguments.
So what, you still claming Hitler was a fan of Islam?
Did he claime prophet Mohammed was an Aryan? Was Dr. Rosenberg ok with that? ROTFL
That's just offensive talk which I noticed is your typical response when you lack arguments.
So what, you still claming Hitler was a fan of Islam?
Did he claime prophet Mohammed was an Aryan? Was Dr. Rosenberg ok with that? ROTFL
Rebel I'm sorry, it's not that I'm lacking the arguments, but it's really not all that difficult to find information on Hitler and Islam on the internet, that's why I'm cutting you short.
Just google those two words and here it comes right away;
(I am surprised sometimes that you build your assumptions/understanding of many things looking at what's on the surface only, without exploring the issues in all their multi-levelness if I can use this word...)
I'll comment on the rest later.)
Rebel I'm sorry, it's not that I'm lacking the arguments, but it's really not all that difficult to find information on Hitler and Islam on the internet, that's why I'm cutting you short.
Just google those two words and here it comes right away;
(I am surprised sometimes that you build your assumptions/understanding of many things looking at what's on the surface only, without exploring the issues in all their multi-levelness if I can use this word...)
I'll comment on the rest later.)
You are just to funny Erasure. You find these tidbits on the internet and build your theories based on them.
Hitler courted Muslims whrn he needed them, the same way he courted Stalin before.
Nazi ideology was very spiritual with references to German mythology and then the myth of Aryans. In no way Nazis incorporated any elements of Islam in their ideology. Nazis rejected all religion. I don't think anybody sane would call Hitler a religious man
And that's why Ashkenazis look different than Sefardic Jews. Still Jews are proud of their lineage going back thousands years back in time... they are still a nation.
Of course they are - just like Americans, Canadians, etc. They just don't share a distinct ethnicity.
You've read something in wikipedia, while I've read about individual pogroms. My opinion wins
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Oh really? Pale of Settlement in Russia was bureaucracy too?
Wanna say that Catherine identified Jews by DNA testing?
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European Jews look for the most part European - just check out the pictures of the WWII.
I've mentioned that too:
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That's if we accept that ethnic Jews exist - because it's hard to believe, considering that they originated in Central Europe many centuries after being kicked out of the Middle East.
Even if they somehow managed to not marry non-Jews, over such a long period infidelities and rapes would probably destroy their ethnicity anyway.
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