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Old 10-12-2012, 12:32 AM
 
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Do you think this decade feels different from the 2000's, or even from the 1990's for that matter? As amazing as it is, we're almost 1/3 of the way through this decade.

Obviously, it'll be a bit difficult to find differences between say 2008 and now, but what about compared to 2002/2003? The early 00s still feels like yesterday and very modern to me and many of the fads and trends popular then are still ongoing, but sometimes I'll watch a program from 2002 and think 'damn, this could almost be from the 80s or something!'

One difference I think in the United States is that the national consciousness is much more globalized. In 2002, it was still very easy to think of the United States as its own world, separate from other countries. In 2012 that's much more difficult to do, I think the financial crisis really changed how we view the rest of the world since what happens anywhere else affects what happens here now. That's been true for a while but it really took the crash of 2007 for people to fully realise it imo. The Internet is much more global now as well, in the 90's and early 00's the Internet was still mostly Anglosphere and Europe-dominated.

Another difference I think is that in 2002, there was still a sense of rebellion among the younger generations. Kids used profanity and listened to rap and heavy metal music to rebel, today that kind of behavior is so mainstream there's nothing to rebel against. In fact being clean is rebellious today, remember a few years back when purity rings were a fad? Even the Jonas Brothers wore them. Listening to heavy metal isn't rebellious, listening to Justin Bieber is. There's also a phenomenon where everyone except for 14 year old girls hates 'today's music' and listens only to indie or old stuff which is fairly new I would say.

Technologically speaking the changes since the 90's aren't as drastic as the changes from the 80's to the 90's but they're still pretty big. In '02 we still had what I call a 'baby internet', mostly centred around text, GIFs and JPEGs. Video was very slow and audio was mostly primitive MIDIs or WAV files that took minutes or hours to download. Social networking was almost non-existent and most communication was done via email or message boards. Webcams were around but were an absolute novelty and quite rare. Cell phones were still mostly phones though PDAs such as the Palm Pilot were pretty popular. Wifi was just starting to become popular.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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First, how old are you? I'm guessing if you in your 40's, 50's, and 60's, the changes will seem less drastic than if you are in your 20's or 30's. The older someone is, the less they pay attention to music and pop fads, and the more it seems their perspective on decades tend to blend together. For example, my grandparents see no difference between music today and 60's music. They think its all noise. My parents who are baby-boomers think 60's music was the greatest, and anything that came out after the 60's is garbage. Same deal.

Second, decades are not defined by their first 2-3 years. For instance, 1981 was closer to the 70's culture than it was to 1985. The early 80's was just an extension of the 70's in many ways. The 80's in hindsight is defined moreso from the period of 1983-1989. The 90's are similar. 1990-1991 were really an extension of the 80's. 1992 to 2000 were the real 90's. I would argue that the 2010's have yet to be defined, but are being shaped by current events and pop culture in 2012. 2010-2011 are an extension of the 2000's, but starting in 2013 we will enter a new decade. Just my prediction. Things are changing a bit. Music is changing. Clothing is changing. Cars are changing. It is just hard for us to see currently.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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For instance, 1981 was closer to the 70's culture than it was to 1985. .

Not sure about this. I am 51. I think of the early 80s, even the late 70s as a huge revolution in pop culture.

Out: Long hair, burnout, denim, hippies, stoner, depressing, dark 1970s;
In: dance music, fluorescent, new wave, aerobics, short hair, positive Go-Gos, B-52s, etc.

The "New Wave" was sort of a reflection of the pre hippy early-mid 1960s.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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Not sure about this. I am 51. I think of the early 80s, even the late 70s as a huge revolution in pop culture.

Out: Long hair, burnout, denim, hippies, stoner, depressing, dark 1970s;
In: dance music, fluorescent, new wave, aerobics, short hair, positive Go-Gos, B-52s, etc.

The "New Wave" was sort of a reflection of the pre hippy early-mid 1960s.
The changes you referenced did not happen until about 1983 or so. 1980-1982 seem to be an extension of the late 70's. Dark, depressing, long hair, and denim were still in. Even bell bottoms remained into the very early 80's.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: on the Hudson
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Technologically speaking the changes since the 90's aren't as drastic as the changes from the 80's to the 90's but they're still pretty big. In '02 we still had what I call a 'baby internet', mostly centred around text, GIFs and JPEGs. Video was very slow and audio was mostly primitive MIDIs or WAV files that took minutes or hours to download. Social networking was almost non-existent and most communication was done via email or message boards. Webcams were around but were an absolute novelty and quite rare. Cell phones were still mostly phones though PDAs such as the Palm Pilot were pretty popular. Wifi was just starting to become popular.
It's hard to predict what will happen in politics or pop culture, but I think it's already clear that technological changes will be a major divider between the 2000s and the 2010s. If the 2000s were when the modern Internet came into being, the 2010s are shaping up to be the decade where mobile devices (smartphones, tablets etc.) replace standalone computers as the most popular way to access it.

Smartphones are so ubiquitous now that it's hard to remember that the iPhone only came out in 2007 and the first Droid came out in 2008. In my personal experience, 2010 was the year when they stopped being a novelty gadget and became something that everyone I knew used. I finally replaced my flip phone with a smartphone in January 2011, and already it's hard to remember what life was like before I had one.

This will only accelerate over the next ten years as technology continues to progress. According to this article, many high school and college students prefer tablets and consider desktop computers to be something for old people!
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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This will only accelerate over the next ten years as technology continues to progress. According to this article, many high school and college students prefer tablets and consider desktop computers to be something for old people!
I think laptops will stay around because of their easy to use keyboards and large screens but yes desktops will probably decline big time.
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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I remembered only one radical change - the mass digital photo.
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Old 10-04-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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I would say that now that it's late 2014, the 2010s have started and developed an identity.

The biggest difference between the 2000s and 2010s is mobile computing - tablets, iPads, smartphones. I'd call the start date for the 2010s to be 2011.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:06 AM
 
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10 years.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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I would say that now that it's late 2014, the 2010s have started and developed an identity.

The biggest difference between the 2000s and 2010s is mobile computing - tablets, iPads, smartphones. I'd call the start date for the 2010s to be 2011.
I'd say more like 2008 or 2009. I feel like this decade started early. Stuff from the very late 2000s doesn't give me a "last decade" vibe but stuff from 2007 does.
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