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Old 04-29-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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Whether it be National Socialism or Communism..BOTH Hitler and Stalin..had a system and a certain personal awareness. Both of these men knew they were of limited intelligence..and attrition was part of their crude plan. In their minds in order to seize brute power you had to get rid of minds. As for the engineered starvation that took place in the Ukraine...which was ancient Russia. Stalin committed genocide of millions..who he felt would never submit to his rule. Much like Hitler. Whether they be Jews or Orthodox Christians - Stalin and Hitler realized that those who believed in GOD would never fully bow and fall under the spell of the cult of personality...so they had to be destroyed.


Having had parents who suffered under communism and German fascism - where both parents lost parents and family due to direct and indirect execution of family members...I will never find anything positive about Hitler or Stalin. When someone murders your relatives - no matter how long ago- You do not forgive.
Stalin was a very intelligent man and not true to say otherwise. Total no. In that case, let's assign here the American president who was a banker and financed by the German army and makes the blood of millions of money. Do you agree in this case?They are completely different people. Hitler was a racist in the first place.You know that this war was artificially created by the American elite. And if the Soviet Union began to lose the war, America would help finish off the Soviet Union. To do this, the counter-intelligence service Soviet Union(which was in the American White House (Washington, DC) to make so that America has set an ultimatum to Japan. Both Japan and then attacking Per Harbor. This attack is the same as the Battle of Moscow is not accidental.Well, that's another topic

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Old 04-29-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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I think the argument could be made that there was a measure of racial motivation in at least a few of Stalin's atrocities: 1944-1957: Deportation and exile - Telegraph
As much as I argued earlier that "Ukrainian genocide" recently promoted as such was a bogus, because Stalin was an equal opportunity destroyer and an internationalist big time; (anyone could be sentenced to death or exiled no matter what nationality, because his reasoning was first of all political, not racial,) in case of Chechens I'll admit that this time around he targeted them specifically as an ethnic group. What's even worse - having family ties in Caucasus, I can understand where he was coming from, being a native of Caucasus himself.
This article ( to which you gave a link) has been written in 2001, three years earlier than the events in Beslan took place, and as bad as it sounds, as far as I'm concerned had he ( Stalin) succeeded, may be we wouldn't have to witness the atrocities that only Chechens can orchestrate in the region.
Stalin's idea to disperse them throughout the country was not by all means new; the most progressive Russian nobility of the 19th century had the same plans for Chechens, ( or rather for all "militant people" of Caucasus, to which Chechens definitely belong.)
Their culture doesn't come across as something native to Caucasus, where other ethnicities lived for ages since biblical times, skilled in crafts and agriculture. The best guess I can make, is that Chechens are either the leftovers of Arab tribes that conquered Caucasus in 7th century, or someone heavily mixed with Arabs. So if the scene in these videos all of a sudden becomes reminiscent of the Middle East, there is a reason for it.


BESLAN HOSTAGE OPERATION MUJAHIDEEN VIDEO 1 - YouTube



Beslan School Massacre, Dramatic Scenes, 2004 [HD] - YouTube



Caucasus had a long history of division between Christian culture and Islamic culture, but even in case of Azeris ( who are basically former Iranians) there was never such treacherous and kniving behavior that you encounter in Chechens, who have totally different "code of honor" stubbing you in the back after smiling at you a minute earlier. No one but Chechens have tendency to decapitate their adversaries also.
Stalin's native Georgia ( as much as neighboring Armenia) were historically protected by Russia from Turks and the threat of Islam - that's how they've retained their original cultures; so in many ways I can see why Stalin didn't trust Chechens, felt suspicious about them and kicked them out from Caucasus. Ingush and some other ethnic groups of Northern Caucasus come pretty close to Chechens with their cultures resembling the Arab culture, but Chechens are usually the masterminds behind it all.
When you see the piranha in the lake where it doesn't belong, you know that it destroys the eco-system.
There is no reason for Caucasus to be like the Middle East, which now it reminds of because of Chechens.

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Old 04-30-2013, 01:31 AM
 
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Informative post. Thanks for the family stories, Oleg Bach.

And I appreciate the way you wove history into currant events, erasure.

I like the world theater tie-in, GreyKarst.....

and etc. etc.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:38 AM
 
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Was there ever a 'final count' or "final estimation" of how many millions died under Stalin's leadership and the civilian casualties of WW II ?
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:09 AM
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Stalin invaded Poland in order to protect the population and to select ruskoyazychnyh Russian land back in '25 that Poland has taken away.
Sir, I'd debunk this pile of lies and propaganda, this slap in the face of anyone that had the "pleasure" of being "protected" by Stalin, but I know it's pointless to debate anything with you. I can't issue you a trolling infraction as I know you believe what you write.
I'll just shake my head in sadness and disbelief that in this day and age, there are people living in this fantasy world where Uncle Joe was so awesome in every way. I feel you'd feel right at home in North Korea, having a living god to worship instead of a dead one..
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:23 AM
 
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Sir, I'd debunk this pile of lies and propaganda, this slap in the face of anyone that had the "pleasure" of being "protected" by Stalin, but I know it's pointless to debate anything with you. I can't issue you a trolling infraction as I know you believe what you write.
I'll just shake my head in sadness and disbelief that in this day and age, there are people living in this fantasy world where Uncle Joe was so awesome in every way. I feel you'd feel right at home in North Korea, having a living god to worship instead of a dead one..
Yac.
Explain what am I wrong, Sir? You probably know the story is very bad, just accuse me of lzhi.K Unfortunately, the image of Poland and malicious activities in Poland against Russia and the Russian people you know very loud ploho.Kusok Poland under the name "Kingdom of Poland" as an autonomous entity was a part of Russia 100 years .
So far, thousands of small articles krivdolyubtsy, scientists, writers, politicians accuse Hitler, in thousands of articles and also accused Stalin of aggression and unleashing the Second World War. For more than 60 years in this spirit taldychat, of course, Polish. Buried his nose and eyes in 1939, thousands of "research." The result - a falsification of history and idiocy in the conclusions.

Idiots and forgers now demanding that Russia even recognized and condemned the act of aggression against a poor Poland. The enemies of Russia and the Russian people write articles doldonit on the radio and teleyaschika that Russia should recognize that the Soviet Union was the aggressor in 1939, and Poland - lamb-sacrifice, and that modern Russia has to condemn the Soviet Union for aggression.
if events assessed in an objective, scientific point of view, and all the then state - predators. And Poland as well. Moreover, Poland - this is the state of the fascist type. And we must not only surround vision, broad vision (see the predator Poland surrounded by other predators), but also the far vision. Not only is a must see for all predators in 1939, but their past. And absolutely can not understand the theme of the partition of Poland between Hitler and Stalin, not knowing the "biography" and the image of Poland. And laugh at those who believed and believes that Poland lamb, and Hitler and Stalin predators aggressor. Some of them are lying, and they know that they lie, they know that utters them - it's cheap propaganda against Russia and the Russian people. Others simply did not realize that what they write, not knowing the history. So arrange the course of history?
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:38 AM
 
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First - the scientific assessment, then the Russian people on the basis of the scientific assessment of the reality we must understand that profitable, which is disadvantageous to the Russian people, which helps him in the struggle for existence that harm. Poland, for example, had every right to expansion to the east ("Rights are not given, take a right!"), But the Russian people had a right to the face of predatory Poland, on the paws, rip it, rip it, was entitled to the expansion in the West ( "Rights are not given, take a right!").'s not forget that this right enjoys America today, and forever.
But remember - life of peoples and nations - it is a struggle for existence, I will not specify what kind and type of this predator Poland. Churchill called Poland-hyena. Probably correct, close.
Unfortunately, the image of Poland and malicious activities in Poland against Russia and the Russian people know Russian badly. The schools in the desired fullness is not taught by teachers of history. Yes most of them do not know anything about it. Russian part of the history of the struggle against the Poles in general for a long time hiding from the Russian people. But Poland is not a sheep, and predator-aggressor has for nearly a thousand years. This is another feature of our people not to hoard hatred of the enemy as opposed to the west.How many times have climbed the Poles to the east, on the Russian land. From the 10th century, from the time of Prince Vladimir the Baptist, they climbed to Russia. Climbed to the German lands. In difficult times, when Russia trampled Tatars, Poland opened her mouth fell on the western Russian lands. Then the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was created. Rzeczpospolita - republic of the two peoples. Meaning the people of "the Crown" (Kingdom of Poland) and the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Russian Jemoit", after the Union of Lublin formed the 1569 federation. But then the Poles and Lithuanians trampled Russian union and actually turned into a bourgeois Poland. All of that territory, which is now Ukraine and Belarus - then belonged to Poland. In the occupied Russian lands from the 14th century - Russian persistent discrimination. Russian genocide of the Poles and the Jews scary. Poles openly called Russian people - "cattle." Poles provided the Jews to rent even Russian church. The Poles gave to the Jews not only suck the life force of the Russian people, but gave the Jews the right to kill even Russian. Continuing a policy of polonisation imposition of Catholicism and Russian. Continuing Russian bullying. (The word "Russian" I use here in a broad sense - the Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians.) If you use the term "fascism" in the modern sense (fascism - is when one nation puts himself above others and dominates over the other), it did a thousand years Poland State of the fascist type.
With great difficulty, Bogdan Khmelnitsky part of the Russian land freed from the Poles and the Jews and annexed to Russia. But the Poles are eager to select eastern Ukraine. As a result of a bloody war with the 1554 on - 1667. Acted against the Russian Poles often in alliance with the Crimean Tatars. How many Poles murdered Russian - there are no statistics.
Then, in the Time of Troubles Poles with Jews again thrust into Russia. Put on the throne Falsdmitry 1, did the queen of Russian Polish girl Marina, then tried to make him king of all Russia for the first time, even a Jew Falsdmitry 2 (and half of Russia recognized the Jew for the Tsar), and then tried to put on the Russian throne, Prince Wladyslaw and the King Sigismund. The Poles were planning to create a Greater Poland to the Urals. And in those days, the Poles, like the Swedes, on a large scale looting, killing Russian people and mocked nimi.1611 year - the year in the sweet memories of the Poles. They were in Moscow. In the centuries since they do not go far mogli.No for a sweet year, followed by a shameful year for the Poles. In 1612, in the Kremlin, surrounded by Russian, Poles came to the point that they engage in cannibalism, some Poles devoured the meat, "the Polish meat," cut from the bodies of other Poles. It was a time when the Russian people rose under the command of Minin and Pozharsky against the Poles. Humiliated and lowered Poland crawled hundreds of kilometers to the west direction is still in the mid 18th century, Poland was still one of Europe's largest countries. She constantly looks angry and eager to east. Where and when can can Poland, it hurts Russia. Ready even with the Turks against Russia soyuznichat. In 1700, for example, the Polish ambassador in Constantinople Raphael Leszczynski tried not only to disrupt the peace treaty between Russia and Turkey, but also tried to persuade Turkey to Poland together with the war against the Russian to help return Ukraine. At the time, none of this venture failed, but in 1768 the Sultan Mustafa III started the war against the Russian Empire, and also because of the weakening polyakov.No Poland and Russia increases. No one liked it then Poland, most Jews' country on the planet Earth, except the Jews. Lived there and had a great power about one million Jews. But they also have weakened the country and the Polish people.
Continue? I forgive the author of this theme that I made ​​a course in the history of Russia and Poland.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:52 AM
 
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We extend the 2-Catherine the Great Russia, Austria and Prussia Poland began to tear to pieces. At first, followed by the first partition of Poland (1772), then the second partition of Poland (1793). Poles are trying to revive the "Greater Poland", arrange a massacre in 1794 in Warsaw, Russian and Lithuanian. Then followed a lightning campaign of General Suvorov of Warsaw, he promised to put an end to Poland for 40 days, and its promise. In the vicinity of Warsaw, Russian soldiers killed in late October (old style), 1794 10 - 15,000 Poles, and even more were captured. Destroyed almost all the Jews' regiment B. Ioselevich. Followed by a third partition of Poland between Russia, Prussia and Austria, and Poland was wiped off the political map of Europe. All captured by the Poles Russian lands were returned to Russia. Poles were taken away from the land and the Baltic. A confiscated Polish golden throne on which sat before the Polish kings, Catherine 2 told to put himself in the toilet.
But then, Napoleon Bonaparte, after defeating Prussia in 1807, out of a piece of Poland, Prussia, who previously swallowed, has created a vassal Grand Duchy of Warsaw. Note also that the piece (Bialystok region) Napoleon gave to Alexander 1 (it's kind of a bribe). And in 1809, after the defeat of Napoleon in Austria (note that participated in the campaign of prey Poles) and she picked the "Polish piece" and annexed to the Duchy of Warsaw. You can say that Napoleon recreated Poland. Of course, that Napoleon had promised predatory Poles after defeating Russian duchy increase and predatory Poles easily persuaded to participate in the campaign against Russia. And the Poles are happy to go kill Russian. The population of the Duchy of Warsaw in 1812 - 4.3 million. So warriors who dreamed of killing Russian and cash in Russia, had accumulated a lot. Fought in the Grand Army of Napoleon 95 - 100 thousand Poles Most of them are part served under the command of the French generals, and some - a fifth of the Polish Corps under the command of the Polish Prince Jozef Poniatowski, Marshal of France, a nephew of King Stanislaw Avgusta.Skolko Russian people killed these 95 -100,000 predatory Poles hate Russia? How much evil done to the Russian people? But predatory Poles again no luck. Napoleon was the biggest loser. His plan is to expand the limits of the French empire to the Pacific was impossible. Prey France with a huge mouth was not strong enough to carry this business. France was weak in a fight with Russia. Poland was weak. Historians do not even know how many Polish soldiers returned from Russia to his native duchy.
Duchy of Warsaw (Poland) lasted only about 8 years. In 1813, Russian troops occupied that Poland. 1 Alexander refused to withdraw Russian troops from it. For assistance aggressor Napoleon, for the killing of Russian winners of Napoleon's Polish aggressors large punished. Representatives of the winners at the Vienna Congress in 1815 gave the Russian Duchy of Warsaw for their outstanding achievements in the defeat of Napoleon. It was renamed the Kingdom of Poland and incorporated into Russia as an autonomous entity (big mistake Alexander was one that he was tempted to "that Poland" with Jews). Austria got Galicia. Part of the Duchy of Warsaw was incorporated into Prussia. Krakow was declared a "free city". It was the fourth partition of Poland.
In 1846, the Polish separatists mutinied in Krakow. The revolt was suppressed, and Krakow, too, was annexed to Austria.
Quest "who wins", Poland and Russia ended in victory for Russia (also Germany and Austria-Hungary), recognized the uselessness of Poland in Europe.
A piece of Poland under the high-sounding title "Kingdom of Poland" as an autonomous entity was a part of Russia 100 years. 1 Alexander tried every way to please the Poles. Gave them a constitution, a parliament, the right to have its own army contributed to the development of the economy of the Kingdom of Poland. Even promised the Poles in the future to expand the territory of the kingdom by the Russian lands. But the Polish chauvinists separatists, filled with hatred for the Russian, of course, have not abandoned the plan for the revitalization of Greater Poland "from sea to sea."
Twice they raised riots (in 1830 and 1863), but were soundly pobity.No on again loomed for the Poles "a great future." Began in August 1914, the First World War, and then coups and civil war in Russia. It is time very favorable for the Poles who hate Russia.
In mid-1919, the head of Poland Jozef Pilsudski, said: "If all goes well, I suppose, that after 5 - 6 months, maybe I would be able to reach Moscow and drive the Bolsheviks out ... Of course, I'm in Moscow or London or are turned to Warsaw. Only, apparently, will order to write on the walls of the Kremlin: "To speak in Russian is prohibited."
He wanted to end the life of belittlement and humiliation of Russia. Pilsudski wrote: "A closed within the boundaries of the sixteenth century, cut off from the Black Sea and Baltic Sea, deprived of land and mineral resources of the South and South-East, Russia could easily go into a state of a second-rate power, unable to seriously threaten the newfound independence of Poland. Poland as the largest and strongest of the new states, could easily provide a sphere of influence that would stretch from Finland to the Caucasus Mountains. " And then it would be necessary to expand the influence of Poland to the east to the Ural Mountains and beyond to the Pacific Ocean....
Polish National Socialist Pilsudski Engels had great respect for the hatred of Russia, with the support of Polish nationalism, for the fact that a socialist-russophobe Engels predicted the defeat of the "reaction" of the Russian people. And Mr. Pilsudski put a lot of effort for the implementation of their dreams.
Shortly before the war, the future dictator of Poland Jozef Pilsudski creating paramilitary groups in Galicia (then part of Austria). In 1913, he even organized officer courses there. Under the patronage of the Austrian authorities of paramilitary and military-sports organizations in August 1914 formed Polish legions under the command of Pilsudski. Eastern Legion in Lviv and Western Legion in Krakow. When Russian troops invaded eastern Galicia, Eastern Legion sam******stilsya, and instead of the Western Legion was formed three teams of the Polish Legion of 5-6 thousand people each. In the First World War, these Polish legions fought against the Russian in Galicia, Western Carpathians and Volyn in the Austrian army.
In October 1914 at the initiative of the Polish Pilsudski came troop organization conspiratorial association that was in force in all the territories of the former Great Poland. Pilsudski planned to rob Russian autonomous Kingdom of Poland and recreate an independent Poland. Perhaps, then, it is hoped, will give "Polish pieces" of Germany and Austria. In not give up, take away. Then recreate the Great Poland. But the main thing is to make the first step - to create a place of Poland to the Kingdom of Poland. While the Germans and Austrians - Russian enemies. And all the enemies of the Russian - Polish friends. At this stage, it is necessary to fight on the side of Germany and Austria, and to kill, and kill the main enemies of Poland - Russian. Poles in a frenzy and killed.
Then, to the delight of the Poles in Russia hated trouble for trouble. In February 1917, in Russia during the war, made a coup. Throw off Tsar Nicholas 2. Jewish-Masonic Provisional Government declares that Poland has the right to secede from Russia and form an independent state, but finally resolve this issue can only Constituent Assembly. Spit on Your Constituent Assembly, said Pilsudski.
But the Germany and Austria, which fought on the side of the Polish Legions, losing the war. This is also perfect for Pilsudski, Poland perfect for prey. Germany as a major competitor for the expansion to the east - is eliminated. You can also grab something from Austria and Germany, if the time away to the winners.
Pilsudski comes from the Provisional State Council, established in 1917 by the German administration in the occupied part of Poland. Pilsudski Polish soldiers ordered not to give an oath of allegiance to Germany and Austria-Hungary. As a result, the Polish military units were disbanded, the legionnaires are interned, and Pilsudski in July 1917 concluded the German fortress of Magdeburg. But he is not sad, because the events unfold for the benefit of his beloved Poland.In Russia again hated coup. And again (if we consider the developments in the national context) there is power grab Jews. Established a dictatorship. All six major dictators Russia - Jews. And, therefore, what may be good for the Russian people? Now the inevitable decline of the empire. Lenin (Blank) with his team concludes Jews raunchy Brest-Litovsk with Germany. Refuses to Poland, Finland, the Baltic countries and Ukraine.
Then - the revolution in Germany, the defeat of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Again, how well things are going for prey Poland.
November 11, 1918 by representatives of the warring parties (except Russia) are going in the forest of Compiegne and conclude a truce. The First World War ended. Germany and Austria-Hungary surrendered. But what is bad for the Germans and Austrians, it's good for the Poles.
On the territory of the Kingdom of Poland created back in the night of 6 to 7 November 1918 the Provisional Government. It announces the formation of the Polish army. The government requires the liberation of Germany from Pilsudski. November 8, 1918 Pilsudski's released from prison. The government announces the re-establishment of an independent Poland.
After the surrender of Germany and Austria-Hungary, the Germans and Austrians are forced to leave the Kingdom of Poland, in Russian at the time - far away. Department of Poles from Russia came virtually without a fight. Poles recreate the independent state of Poland without asking Lenin and his team of Jews. After a triumphant return to Warsaw Pilsudski for all parties to give him more power. Pilsudski was a symbol of independence and the rebirth of Poland. November 14 regency temporarily transfers power to Pilsudski. 22 November Pilsudski signed a decree on the organization of supreme power in the Polish republic. This decree Jozef Pilsudski was appointed interim "head of state", has full legislative and executive branches. Pilsudski formed a new Polish government.
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Those people who say Stalin was not that bad...anyone whether it be the early communist rebels in Russia who executed my grandfather....or Hitler who tormented and murdered millions..anyone who is responsible for the direct or indirect killing of a relative will NEVER get a pass in my book...May the supporters of Stalin and Hitler suffer the worse curse the cosmos has to offer. To hell with these fools....In the memory of my mother's family...In the memory of my father's family...I will never forgive these monsters and their dupes.
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I will continue well? Read Only, before you delete these posts, just do not know the story.

And in January 1919, has recognized the constitutional parliament Pilsudski extremely broad powers to the Head of State. So the Polish National Socialist Jozef Pilsudski became the first fascist dictator in Europe.
At Pilsudski and his supporters had a great plan to expand as the territory of Poland to the east by the Russian land, at the expense of the Baltic states, which split from the Russian, and expand the territory of Poland with the territory of defeated Germany and Austria-Hungary. First, expand the borders of Poland before 1772, and then create a Greater Poland from sea to sea. Then create the Rzeczpospolita - Federation of Poland, the Baltic states and Ukraine. And then, if possible, include the Federation of Russia itself. Then the new Rzeczpospolita-2 will extend to the Urals and beyond to the Pacific Ocean. The capital of the Federation - Warsaw. Everything is under the full control of the Poles. Fascism in its purest form. But first, the most important goal - the capture of Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states.

Grand plan, similar to the plan even Hitler. Like Hitler, Pilsudski should get a huge "living space" in the east. Let us not forget that, like Hitler, Pilsudski had the intention to clean up Poland and conquered the land from the Jews. He was hostile to the Jews, as was well aware that one of the main reasons for the defeat of Poland in the late 18th century and the partitions of Poland - Poland is weakened the Jews. And Russia, which faced a struggle now had "a Jewish power." And if he wins the "Muscovites" Poland was threatened not only the Sovietization under Moscow's control, but again and ozhidovlenie.
Power in the new Poland should fully belong to the Poles, the Jews have no place in the government. But Pilsudski about it, unlike Hitler, did not openly say that. For its temporary allies (France and England) experienced a profound effect then the Jews.
Many Poles, the Germans did not and do not believe such a plan is utopian.
"We, Poles, not only had the Ukraine and Belarus. ^ We Poles have already been in Moscow. Grishka Otrepiev planted on Russian throne, told Russian that it is the king Dmitry, planted Polish girl Marina on Russian throne. Poles arrested Russian Tsar Vasily Shumsky, sent him to Poland, where he is in grief and died. Then half of Russia recognized our protege - king-Jew. Stupid Russian thought it miraculously escaped Dmitri. Then Moscow and most of the Russian people even swore Polish king Vladislav. Polish troops under the command of Hetman Stanislaw Zolkiewski in the night from 21 to 22 September 1610 came to Moscow. There was so infamous for Russian fact.
From the Moscow Kremlin Polish hetman Alexander Gosiewski rules Russia. March 17, 1611 the Poles had a big massacre in Moscow. Only in China-town Poles killed 7,000 Russian. A lot of them, Polish, then in the first 10 years of the 17th century Russian killed, many Russian women were raped, looted many Russian. Russian Boyar Duma bowed to slavishly to the Poles. Russian princes Mstislav Galitzine, Troubetzkoy, Obolensky, Lykov, high-born Romanov boyars and Sheremet performed all that they have ordered the Poles.
Proceed
Were in Moscow and hetmans Zolkiewski Gosiewski, will be in Moscow and head of Poland Jozef Pilsudski!
And he will order to write on the walls of the Kremlin: "To speak in Russian is prohibited."
And he believed in what he was talking. For very much favorable conditions have been created for prey while Poland. It was possible in time to flop on the winning side. Winners have forgiven the Polish legions fought on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary. England needed a strong counterweight to Poland for France, Germany and Russia. France, Poland want even more - a counterweight to Germany and Eastern campaign. And now, at a peace conference in Paris predators winners have decided to give the Poles tidbits, severing them from defeated Germany. A recognition of the independence of Poland, they recognized the fact of its separation from Russia.
The Treaty of Versailles

Tell us briefly about the great divide in 1919 is also necessary. Here predators winning torn, dismembered and divided among themselves the territory of planet Earth. The main predators of winning - this is England, France and the United States. These top predators threw small pieces and small predators. In a mirrored hall of the Palace of Versailles (near Paris), June 28, 1919 signed an agreement on the division of the planet. Signed by 26 of predators, one of them, Poland.

Predatory France got Alsace-Lorraine (within 1870). Predator Belgium received Eupen and Malmedy District, as well as the so-called neutral and Prussian parts of Morena. The city of Memel (now Klaipeda) taken away from Germany and handed over to the powers of the winners.

^ Poland got taken away from Germany Poznan, Pomerania and other parts of the territory of West Prussia. Danzig (Gdansk) - a major port on the Baltic Sea and the industrial center, although 95% of the residents of this city - the Germans, was (according to Art. 100 - 108) is selected in Germany, got together with the region a republic - "Free City of Danzig" and given under the control of the League of Nations. A representative of the League of Nations in the city was high commissioner. But there were many Poles. Poles were granted Danzig conduct of foreign affairs and management of the city by rail. Poles were entitled to free use of the Danzig waterways, docks, etc. Danzig was part of the customs area of ​​Poland and the Polish customs officials carried out on the borders of the city. Poles were entitled to free use of postal and telegraphic communication between the "free city" and Poland. Polish government-owned custody of Polish citizens of Danzig ... Later, in 1926 Poland, with the consent of the League of Nations, was kept in the harbor of Danzig and storage of military equipment under the protection of his contract военнослужащих.Версальский

Tell us briefly about the great divide in 1919 is also necessary. Here predators winning torn, dismembered and divided among themselves the territory of planet Earth. The main predators of winning - this is England, France and the United States. These top predators threw small pieces and small predators. In a mirrored hall of the Palace of Versailles (near Paris), June 28, 1919 signed an agreement on the division of the planet. Signed by 26 of predators, one of them, Poland.

Predatory France got Alsace-Lorraine (within 1870). Predator Belgium received Eupen and Malmedy District, as well as the so-called neutral and Prussian parts of Morena. The city of Memel (now Klaipeda) taken away from Germany and handed over to the powers of the winners.

^ Poland got taken away from Germany Poznan, Pomerania and other parts of the territory of West Prussia. Danzig (Gdansk) - a major port on the Baltic Sea and the industrial center, although 95% of the residents of this city - the Germans, was (according to Art. 100 - 108) is selected in Germany, got together with the region a republic - "Free City of Danzig" and given under the control of the League of Nations. A representative of the League of Nations in the city was high commissioner. But there were many Poles. Poles were granted Danzig conduct of foreign affairs and management of the city by rail. Poles were entitled to free use of the Danzig waterways, docks, etc. Danzig was part of the customs area of ​​Poland and the Polish customs officials carried out on the borders of the city. Poles were entitled to free use of postal and telegraphic communication between the "free city" and Poland. Polish government-owned custody of Polish citizens of Danzig ... Later, in 1926 Poland, with the consent of the League of Nations, was kept in the harbor of Danzig and storage of military equipment under the protection of his troops.Poland received a strategically important territory band, which gave it access to the Baltic Sea and Danzig - Danzig Corridor (aka the Polish Corridor). Area of ​​16,295 square kilometers in length from north to south about 230 kilometers wide in the south of up to 200 kilometers in the northern part (at the narrowest point) 30 km coastline of 71 km. "Polish Corridor" shared the same part of Germany (East Prussia) from the rest of Germany. Germany and the German people were ripped winners. What's good for the Poles terribly hard for nemtsev.Pobediteli also agreed that the issue of the nationality of Schleswig, southern part of East Prussia and Upper Silesia plebiscite to decide (as a result of part of Schleswig went to Denmark in 1920, part of Upper Silesia in 1921 - to Poland, the southern part of East Prussia remained in Germany.) Predator got a small piece of Czechoslovakia Silesia. To the annoyance of Poland, "Polish native land" - on the right bank of the Oder, Lower Silesia, a large part of Upper Silesia, and others - have remained in Germany. Saar crossing for 15 years under the control of the League of Nations, and after 15 years the fate of the Saar was also to decide through a plebiscite. Rich Saar coal mines were transferred to France.

Torn to pieces by the winners and was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. This empire ceased to exist on the map of Europe. Of these pieces were made nezavimye state. The Treaty of Versailles Germany acknowledged and pledged to strictly observe the independence of Austria, and also recognized the full independence of Poland (new boundaries) and Czechoslovakia.

The entire left side of the German part of the Rhine and the right bank of the band width of 50 kilometers subject to demilitarization. Predators-winners took away all of its colonies in Germany. Later, they were divided between predators-winners - between Britain, France, Belgium and Portugal. Small pieces of the German colonies in the Pacific were Japan, Commonwealth of Australia and New Zealand.

Germany predators winners forced to refuse all concessions and privileges in China, from the rights of consular jurisdiction and from any property in Siam, from all contracts and agreements with Liberia. Germany predators forced to recognize the winners of the French protectorate over Morocco and the UK protectorate over Egypt. Germany was deprived of rights in respect of the whole Jiaozhou Shandong province, China, and now here was the host of prey Japan...
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