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Old 06-19-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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I think it's more than just fashion. True fashion was more homely back then and women weren't as pressured to look sexy, but even their facial appearances and such looked more rugged and arguably more "masculine". I think it's because people had harder lives back then.

Oddly though I think makeup often makes women look more masculine, when it's overdone. Girls in the 80s and girls today actually look a bit less girly I think than girls in the 90s and 00s despite those decades being dominated by tomboy fashion for this reason.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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"women used to look more like men in the past"

Can you substantiate this? Data? Photos?
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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How long did it take to decide on that question, OP?
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:43 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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You are kidding, right?

Last edited by picmod; 01-10-2014 at 04:02 PM..
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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I think it's more than just fashion. True fashion was more homely back then and women weren't as pressured to look sexy, but even their facial appearances and such looked more rugged and arguably more "masculine". I think it's because people had harder lives back then.

Oddly though I think makeup often makes women look more masculine, when it's overdone. Girls in the 80s and girls today actually look a bit less girly I think than girls in the 90s and 00s despite those decades being dominated by tomboy fashion for this reason.
Might have been the way they dressed:
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Marlena Dietrich without he top hat.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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You are kidding, right?
I think she's talking about prior to that, like turn of the century or before that. Perhaps some of it has to do with how there were no hormonal replacements, such as birth control pills, and estrogen therapy etc. I do agree with the idea somewhat having done some perusal of old 19th century photographs; but this is merely a subjective opinion. There were also some photographs where the women looked very feminine. So I think it was a mix of both, just as today [the hormones probably have little to do with it (though even the birth control pills will give a woman softer, clearer skin--this from experience)].
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Here.
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define "past"? You mentioned 80s-00s, but I would strongly disagree if that is the period you are talking about. If you are talking about much longer ago, some things to consider:
  • Long ago, women did much more manual labor than they do today, so it would be understandable that they would be more masculine.
  • Long ago, women didn't have the time nor the products to improve their appearance like they do today.
  • Painters often painted what they thought was the idealized women as opposed to a realistic woman. Think Michelangelo. They also didn't always have a good selection of women to chose from, as posing for photography wasn't always looked favorably upon, especially nudes.
  • During the early photography era, posers for photographs didn't smile because 1. they had to hold their expression for the longer-timed exposures and 2. it hadn't become common to smile...so people look more serious (masculine). Also black and white photography can give people a harsher (more masculine) appearance.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I think she's talking about prior to that, like turn of the century or before that. Perhaps some of it has to do with how there were no hormonal replacements, such as birth control pills, and estrogen therapy etc. I do agree with the idea somewhat having done some perusal of old 19th century photographs; but this is merely a subjective opinion. There were also some photographs where the women looked very feminine. So I think it was a mix of both, just as today [the hormones probably have little to do with it (though even the birth control pills will give a woman softer, clearer skin--this from experience)].
I don't know when she's talking about!

Belmont!....What period are you talking about?

This one?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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There was the term..."She is a handsome and interesting woman" - Today's beauty is more girl like than womanly...Woman in the past who appeared manly were just nice lesbians who married and had kids...it was common...besides some of the men in the "past" who were girly and delicate kind of liked marrying masculine females...of course she would be boss in the home and in bed.....
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