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Old 08-06-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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No, they were trying to ease out of it with their command structure intact and the war hawks in their cabinet still running things, free to start building up with the same people in charge later. That's hardly a "surrender", and for obvious reasons was completely unacceptable.

Not sure where you're getting your "information". You need to do a lot of homework.
Not sure where you get your info from oh that's right Fox News
"Even without the atomic bombing attacks," concluded the United States Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946, "air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion."
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So that justifies what we did?
What justifies the bombings was the intransigence of Japan.

Put bluntly, they would not surrender unless they were confronted with overwhelming force.

Now, why don't you come out and say that you wish that several tens of thousands more of American and Japanese soldiers had been killed because you think that an invasion of Japan would have been more humane than dropping those bombs.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Truth is the USA saw a perfect opportunity to test out it's new weapon on people.
Good thing it worked.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yes, but maybe if you stop mewling and let us pour some sense in to you, you might come around.

Liberal: Definition: Somebody who's always willing to take the other guy's side.
It's about seeing virtue in everyone else, except for yourself, it's about wallowing in a pool of self loathing.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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What justifies the bombings was the intransigence of Japan.

Put bluntly, they would not surrender unless they were confronted with overwhelming force.

Now, why don't you come out and say that you wish that several tens of thousands more of American and Japanese soldiers had been killed because you think that an invasion of Japan would have been more humane than dropping those bombs.
They already were beaten badly! and were trying to surrender, what part of that do you not understand?

"Even without the atomic bombing attacks," concluded the United States Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946, "air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion."
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Not sure where you get your info from oh that's right Fox News
"Even without the atomic bombing attacks," concluded the United States Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946, "air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion."
Or not.

How many more American lives would have been lost? How many more American lives would you have willingly sacrificed?
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Or not.

How many more American lives would have been lost? How many more American lives would you have willingly sacrificed?
A land invasion of honshu would have seen hundreds of thousands killed
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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Some people sound like broken records and keep repeating the same questions after they have already been answered.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Oh, Boo-Friggety-Hoo.

We now know that the Japanese, the Russians, and Germans were working on nuclear bomb programs themselves. If any one of these countries had beaten us to it, does any thinking person really believe they wouldn't have used it?

Thank heaven we got there first.
I notice this point continues unanswered.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Still waiting.....
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