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Old 08-13-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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I just heard a story on NPR- "Making Words" from "To the Best of Our Knowledge", that the British accent today developed after the war of independance. After 1820, the Brits started dropping their r's and changed the a's like in "that" said in American-speak with a flat nasal sound; to "thaut" like in "ought". They changed other things like dropped "got" and "gotten" as ungramatical. This show is available on Podcast and is very interesting.
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:16 PM
 
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Well, to tell you the truth, in Spain we understand Americans better.
Americans are also far more open and cultured, they eat Spanish food without smelling it first.
Personally, I don't understand English as spoken by most English here, maybe it's because they are always drunk or because they come from rough linguistic ghettos.
American English is uniform, at least for our ears..
Most English here speak very rough dialects, I'd say about 95 percent....
Some, very few, maybe 3 to 4 percent, speak a very nice English, you can tell them apart right away because they belong to another caste.
They dress differently and behave in a different manner.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Did the English of 1776 speak with the same accent
they do today ?

I've heard the theory that breakaway English colonies
retain the type of "Englishness" existing at the time of
the "divorce."


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Old 08-14-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Once again I'm joining this discussion very late, so if I repeat something, my apologies.

Languages, dialects and accents, obviously, evolve over time. Now, add geographic isolation so that the language spoken in one area evolves idependently from the same language in another area. Within a few generations there will be noticeable differences (e.g. Boston accent, New Yorker accent). Eventually, one may get two different languages, or such differences as to make it difficult for one group to understand the other.

An example I like to use is the difference between the Choctaw and Chickasaw languages. Linguists generally agree that they used to be one language. Many hundreds of years ago, two groups of people went their separate ways. Geographic isolation caused their spoken languages to evolve independently. They are sufficiently similar that, by working patiently and very diligently, a native speaker of one can begin to understand a native speaker of the other.
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:35 AM
 
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I don't think that the American spoken at the 13 Colonies was very similar to English spoken in England at that time. I've met many "colonial" English, English people born in India, Malaysia, Jamaica, etc, and their English is different, a much better English. Colonials don't speak dialect.

Austrialians don't speak "colonial English", but low class English.

Their English was (most of "colonials" I knew are now dead) similar to that spoken by Higgings, at Magnum P.I.
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:56 AM
 
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I don't think that the American spoken at the 13 Colonies was very similar to English spoken in England at that time. I've met many "colonial" English, English people born in India, Malaysia, Jamaica, etc, and their English is different, a much better English. Colonials don't speak dialect.

Austrialians don't speak "colonial English", but low class English.

Their English was (most of "colonials" I knew are now dead) similar to that spoken by Higgings, at Magnum P.I.
Higgins, of course, was played by actor John Hillerman, an American born and raised in Texas...
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Higgins, of course, was played by actor John Hillerman, an American born and raised in Texas...
Yup, but he surely had the "colonial" accent down pat...
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:18 AM
 
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Higgins, of course, was played by actor John Hillerman, an American born and raised in Texas...

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Well, he did it very well. Colonial English is an English "recreated" by people that were not born in the UK, but in their colonies.
Generally, Colonials had a better education and economical standing than English and they had no regional accents.

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Old 08-17-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: t' grim north
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Generally, Colonials had a better education and economical standing than English and they had no regional accents.
You really are a bitter and twisted racist - I expect you are one of those Spanish football fans that still think it's fun to make monkey noices at the black players.

Get a life.
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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I don't like football.
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