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Old 11-17-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: stuck in the woods with bears and moose
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Originally Posted by in_newengland
He always wanted to be close to the people and the bubble top got in the way, It was considered a bit risky but back in those days people didn't go around shooting other people the way they do today.


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Please. by 1963 we'd had four assassinated presidents.
I said back in those days. Meaning circa 1963.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Originally Posted by in_newengland
He always wanted to be close to the people and the bubble top got in the way, It was considered a bit risky but back in those days people didn't go around shooting other people the way they do today.




I said back in those days. Meaning circa 1963.
That's why it was such a horrendous shock. Nobody even considered it. Kennedy wanted to be seen and react to the croud, and that's why the bubble was removed. If the perception had been of today, then he would have been overruled.

The absolute disbelief it created came from the idea of such an act being unimaginable. Sadly, it no longer is. Look at how we've changed in terms of security with buildings and any sort of crowd since 9/11. Nobody really ever thought airplanes would be used to commit an act of terrorism of that sort.

If it were to happen again, we wouldn't react to it nearly the same.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Please. by 1963 we'd had four assassinated presidents.
Versus how many soldiers in past wars?
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Please. by 1963 we'd had four assassinated presidents.
Not quite. JFK was the fourth.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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He always wanted to be close to the people and the bubble top got in the way, It was considered a bit risky but back in those days people didn't go around shooting other people the way they do today.
That's true. JFK told them to take the top off. It wasn't bulletproof anyway. It was just a plastic bubble.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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Lincoln was sitting in an unguarded theater box.

Garfield was at a train station.

McKinley was in a reception line.

Riding in a car probably seemed safe.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Lincoln was sitting in an unguarded theater box.

Garfield was at a train station.

McKinley was in a reception line.

Riding in a car probably seemed safe.
They should have remembered the Archduke
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: In America's Heartland
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Anybody remember the Reagan shooting? I saw both Nixon and Clinton in situations where many buildings surrounded them, they both seemed like sitting ducks for some nut with a gun. I know there are all types of behind the scene security, but all the security in the world is not going to always prevent this type of thing.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Anybody remember the Reagan shooting? I saw both Nixon and Clinton in situations where many buildings surrounded them, they both seemed like sitting ducks for some nut with a gun. I know there are all types of behind the scene security, but all the security in the world is not going to always prevent this type of thing.
Kennedy did have secret service in front and in the back along with police escorts. I am not sure what they did in terms of checking the buildings for security.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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Apparently you forgot what you wrote.

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A lot of times of times things dont change unless there is a disaster. There were no assassinations since McKinley, and that was before the automobile. If status quo supposidly works, than sadly many times there is no change.
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You forgot the two attempts on Truman Truman's life, first in 1947 and the second in 1950.
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He was not in a moving car nor did he die.
I suppose that we can quibble over assassinations vs attempted assassinations but the point still holds within the context of the discussion, i.e., the Secret Service's seemingly lack of security for JFK.

Besides the successful assassinations of Lincoln, Garfield and McKinley there were attempts on Andrew Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt and the two that I mentioned regarding Harry Truman, so one could be led to suppose that the Secret Service should have been even more security conscious than they were.
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