150 Years Later, Why Is America Still Haunted By the Legacy of Slavery? (1920s, economy)
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Racial Enmity- This is something a society which spent more than 300 years practicing and engaged in promoting and supporting. Until, it blinded itself to the fact that it is still more pervasive in the hidden recess of many peoples minds.
many people have become enlightened, to realize the wrongs in Racial Enmity. some still refuse to think in terms of having any sense of remorse to strengthen their sense of compassionate understandings, instead, they languish in 'denials", and some move to haughtiness and condescending mentalities.
The truly liberal minded transitioned to be of respect of all person, but they also do not seek a ready denial of the ramification of their ancestry's acts and actions and the impact it has on the current lives of many minorities in the present day.
You can't wipe away the damages of 300+ years in a mere 50 yrs. It took 100 yrs, from the time of freeing slaves, to get to the point to have Civil Rights Laws. Racial Enmity is still a reverberating sickness in the cultures of American. We see imbalances in every segment of society, these imbalances exist because there are imbalances in opportunity and accessibility.
There is much work to be done, and we will need to face the fact, that it may take another 25 or more years before the esteem of the minorities, can get over the bullying and brutality that was done, and much of the current bullying that is still being done.
It is bullying, when people continue to make stereotypical put down commentary, of slander and negative driven generalizations. If this was done to whites, they'd be in the shrink's office, or maybe as we see, some go out and shoot up a bunch of innocent people whom they don't even know nor has those person directly done anything to them.
But the history of white society is such, they don't see their acts and attitudes as bullying, because that is the commonality within their history. They feel entitled to make these slander and bully attitudes and mass generalizations, because that is what their ancestry did, so they can't see the wrong in it.
This is where and how "Racial Enmity" is continuing its existence.
tell me anywhere in the world were Africans are the minority and are on the equal income levels with whites?
Jim Crow laws were in the south, what's their excuse for the northern states?
but they are now, what's their excuse?
Maybe you should go and review the history of the Supreme Court, and the many courts across the nation as well as the history of the politicians, before you speak, and you will find that Jim Crow and KKK and many other factions of bigotry and racism supporters were and some still are within the law makers body of this nations congress, as well as overt promoters of racial divisiveness and bigoted madness against the entire ethnicity and presence of black people in America.
You first have to get over the denial mentality to truly grasp the truths which exist.
Maybe you should go and review the history of the Supreme Court, and the many courts across the nation as well as the history of the politicians, before you speak, and you will find that Jim Crow and KKK and many other factions of bigotry and racism supporters were and some still are within the law makers body of this nations congress, as well as overt promoters of racial divisiveness and bigoted madness against the entire ethnicity and presence of black people in America.
You first have to get over the denial mentality to truly grasp the truths which exist.
Well placed reply, sadly (because we should know of the rhetoric subjected to others solely due to difference of tone) this misguided thought pattern does nothing beyond hindrance.
[quote=Chance and Change;33742580]But the history of white society is such, they don't see their acts and attitudes as bullying, because that is the commonality within their history. They feel entitled to make these slander and bully attitudes and mass generalizations, because that is what their ancestry did, so they can't see the wrong in it.
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Where is my reparations, coming from my great ancestor the White Indentured Servant, in 1687? Remember Hollwood? Oh, never mind.
Reparations for what? If your ancestor was an indentured servant, that suggests that he or she got that way via mismanagement of personal finances to the point of debt so severe that selling oneself into a term of servitude was the only way out. Or it could mean that your ancestor accepted the status as an indentured servant as a court offered alternative to prison or the gallows.
Or it could also simply mean that your ancestor accepted a term of indentured service in exchange for his or her passage to America which he or she could not otherwise afford.
And after the term of the service expired, typically seven years, your ancestor was free, as were your ancestor's children.
You would place the above dynamic on the same sympathy scale as being kidnapped from your native land, packed onto a slave ship in irons and transported to a life of perpetual slavery for yourself and your children?
Where is my reparations, coming from my great ancestor the White Indentured Servant, in 1687? Remember Hollwood? Oh, never mind.
There are no reparations promised to indentured servants, why would there be? Servants are servants because they signed contracts to become servants. Better yet, who would even pay the reparations if your "great ancestor" was an indentured servant in 1687, the United States didn't exist then.
people have to understand the facts about slavery.
1. american didnt invent it slavery has been around for thousands of years
2. even africans enslaved other africans long before the europeans came to africa
3. most of africans were sent to the caribbeans and south america not the us.
4. many countries had far more slaves that the us had, england alone had ten times as much.
5. some of the biggest traders in the african slave trade were african kings would trade his fellow citizens for gifts from the european and arab traders.
this all doesnt excuse america from having slaves but we were just a small cog in a very big wheel.
Slavery hasnt been the big problem. Terence, the Roman writer was a former slave, the brand and style of slavery in the US was the problem. We can all mention the images we think of when someone mentions US slavery, whips, mansions, yes'sir massa, cotton fields, lynching, the South. How about Peruvian slavery, what images do you think of..Mexican?
This response, although wordy, your talking points can be seen "Trivializing" and lack of Accountability."
Anytime you mention the history of slavery or Jim Crow, you will get the "Well Jimmy was doing it too response". If this is a valid excuse why is it not allowed in a court of law to free a guilty man on censure?
The united States didnt invent slavery it just had one of the worst responses to it; civil war and segregation. Though out Latin America there is not race in the sense of skin color, in the US there is. In the US, ethnicity equals skin color, a vestige of slavery. In Europe, Africa, and Asia skin color does not equal ethnicity.
Blacks and whites are to blame. Some black slaves also believed in white superiority and black inferiority. Frederick Law Olmsted mentioned an event where a black worker in Philadelphia called his black boss a "******" for the mere fact that he thought white people should be bosses. This was in his book The Cotton Kingdom from 1855, good read
In brief, people believing in the arbitrary division of white and black with some false innate characteristics for each peoples is a problem. With this, our nation continues to see black as bad and white as good. Black as something lesser and white as something appealing, when ever something is different we do not like it, so dividing people based on race/skin color will cause problems. In Mexico for example, people are not referred to by ethnicity (Mestizo) but rather by complexion (guerra, moreno); there is no such thing as the moreno people. In African American communities complexion is also used (black, red bone, light-skinned, caramel, etc). The use of white and black in mainstream american culture is not complexion or a description it is a division.
some still refuse to think in terms of having any sense of remorse to strengthen their sense of compassionate understandings, instead, they languish in 'denials", and some move to haughtiness and condescending mentalities.
I politely disagree. No one needs to apologize. This attitude is why most American white people do not have honest discussions about race. Stop asking white people to apologize. This is why the race card was invented to make accusations against people who want to discuss history that they are ashamed about - everyone likes to discuss history they are proud of, its called bragging.
Point1. There will never be a truly intellectual discussion about race because the US is not a debate-oriented country, never has been. The constitution was even based largely on the writings of British thinkers (James Burgh, Thomas Paine, etc)
Point2. Your post is raw and lacks strategy. American white people do not care about attacking black people - only bigots do that, they are more concerned with devaluing black culture. The way they succeed is by attacking acts which are repulsive to most people then associating that act with a minority of the population (uneducated black, blacks who do not adopt a Eurocentric education mode, etc). This causes educated black people to distance themselves from those "bad black people". There are only two reasons people do not like something, because they are unfamiliar with it or because it is not popular.
You are attacking the experience (being white) of 80% of the American population, by definition that is familiar therefore it will not work. You should no longer wonder why your approach is not working. It is time to stop being frustrated and start being satisfied with progress.
You may say I am wrong because the imaginary racial division of "hispanics" brings the white population to under 50%. But whites are still the plurality and in addition didnt you hear, whites created a new racial category "white hispanics". After a generation two they will be "whites". Have you noticed they didnt create "Black hispanics"?
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