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Old 03-08-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Not in Russia, where people of mongoloid race lived side by side with Russians, and were an inseparable part of Russian history.
This term still stands as much as "Europid" and is used for example by Russian Wikipedia.

Монголоидная раса — Википедия
Erasure, it's an American forum, and we are writing in English. In English, the language of the forum, "Mongoloid" is a backwards and derogatory term used in outdated racial science, and often used for people with mental disabilities.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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Erasure, it's an American forum, and we are writing in English. In English, the language of the forum, "Mongoloid" is a backwards and derogatory term used in outdated racial science, and often used for people with mental disabilities.
I don't believe that it's exclusively an American forum - I've noticed quite a few international participants, and English is not a language spoken exclusively in the US.
Therefore it doesn't hurt to explain how the same term can be used/interpreted somewhere else.
No harm done.

P.S. Besides, my explanation was related directly to the question asked by OP.

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Old 03-10-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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This definition wouldn't serve the purpose for common usage in Russia I think, because a lot of Asian people falling under this category are simply irrelevant for Russians in their daily lives.
When Russians think "Asians" - they think first of all in terms of their immediate neighbors - Central Asians, ( which are really older civilizations,) but when they hear "mongols" - that is usually associated with nomads and history of Tatar-Mongols.
And I don't think that they usually even make any particular connection between the native people of Siberia and "Asians," in spite of the fact that it's the very same "mongoloid" type. The culture of Native people of Siberia is quite different from the "Central Asians," and that what counts in this case.
Same thing in the States, since over here when people say Asia and Asian they really mean East Asian though this does not make Bangladesh or Qatar any less Asian.

Even Brace sometimes did this in his writings, but at least he clearly defines all the terms he uses.

Scholarship should be held to different standards than pop. culture though.
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