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Old 03-06-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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Today I visited one the places where the secret agreements between the Spanish and american representatives took place in February 1777.
It's in the north of Spain in a city called Vitoria.
Trfico de armas en la Correra. El Correo

Spain was weak at the moment, after the seven years war they had sustained serious losses against the British, so couldn't face great Britain openly.
The spanish representatives were Grimaldi, Gordoqui and the american representative Arthur Lee.


The american colonies received from the spanish treasury 70.000 pesos first and later another 50.000.
Goods valued in 946.906 reales and 215 bronze canons, 30.000 muskets, 30.000 bayonets, 512314 bullets, 300.000 pounds of powder, 12868 grenades, 30.000 uniforms and 4000 tents.


Thanks to that help, the american colonies achieved a great victory at Saratoga battle (Oct. 1777), which finally moved the french to join the american side, in 1778.
Later the spanish, 1779, joined the americans in open war, fighting in the South, Gulf coast and Midwest with total success.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Default Spain in the American Revolutionary War

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Today I visited one the places where the secret agreements between the Spanish and american representatives took place in February 1777.
It's in the north of Spain in a city called Vitoria.
Trfico de armas en la Correra. El Correo

Spain was weak at the moment, after the seven years war they had sustained serious losses against the British, so couldn't face great Britain openly.
The spanish representatives were Grimaldi, Gordoqui and the american representative Arthur Lee.


The american colonies received from the spanish treasury 70.000 pesos first and later another 50.000.
Goods valued in 946.906 reales and 215 bronze canons, 30.000 muskets, 30.000 bayonets, 512314 bullets, 300.000 pounds of powder, 12868 grenades, 30.000 uniforms and 4000 tents.


Thanks to that help, the american colonies achieved a great victory at Saratoga battle (Oct. 1777), which finally moved the french to join the american side, in 1778.
Later the spanish, 1779, joined the americans in open war, fighting in the South, Gulf coast and Midwest with total success.
Spain actually did quite well in the American Revolutionary War, especially compared to some of the disasters she had in other wars with the British. She not only stopped most British offenses against her but she went on the offense herself and took numerous British forts and possessions in the southern United States and the Caribbean (including the Bahamas). The Spanish actually took one British fort in what is now the northern US state of Michigan.

After the war she received Minorca and Florida from the British.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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True compared with the disastrous war of the seven years for the Spanish, Spain wiped out all british forces in the South.
In battles like the siege of Pensacola where the capured 1200 brithish soldier ang gained control over all west Florida.



They exchanged the british prisioners by the captured Spanish soldiers and seamen from the brutal conditions on British prision ships.

Those British prision ships, are by themselves an interesting and very dark subject for another thread.
Almost nobody knows that in the american revolutionary war, most of the deaths occured on those ships, not in the battlefields, mostly kids and women, starved to death or killed because of torture.
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