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Old 03-25-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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Can someone tell a bit about the French revolution? Why did it happen, and who was behind it? What had Napoleon 1 to do with the people behind the revolution? Why was someone from the rojalfamily that sat before the revolution put back on the throne after Napoleon 1 lost the war? Thanks
The French Revolutions might have had something to do with Marie Antoinette. She was having all sorts of parties while the people of France were starving. When she learned that the they didn't have even potatoes to eat, she said "let them eat cake". That might be a bit of a myth, but it summarizes the reason for the French Revolution: economic imbalance. The same thing happened in Russia with the Czar and his family, but that's another story.

Marie Antoinette was put in the guillotine on October 16, 1793. On January 21, 1793, her husband, Louis XVI was in the guillotine. Many wealthy libertarians lost their heads for self indulgence and abuse of the populace. Read Marquis de Sade to get a feel for life in France at the time prior to the French Revolution.

The French Revolution started in 1789 and continued to 1799. Napoleon was Emperor of France from 1804-1814. By 1794, Napoleon was emerging as a leader in much the same way that Hitler emerged as a leader in 1933 with National Socialism.

In 1791, Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI became prisoners in their own home.

When all this was over, anyone could claim a throne, but the monarchy was abolished after Louis XVI. Pretenders to the throne are no different than the American woman that claimed to be Anastasia Romanov, a descendant to the Russian royal family ... pretenders.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:48 PM
 
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Is a Jacobite wondering if there's something to claim?
There's nothing to claim.

France abolished the monarchy during the French Revolution and law will not retroactively award land to the Jacobites.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:11 AM
 
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The French Revolutions might have had something to do with Marie Antoinette. She was having all sorts of parties while the people of France were starving. When she learned that the they didn't have even potatoes to eat, she said "let them eat cake". That might be a bit of a myth, but it summarizes the reason for the French Revolution: economic imbalance. The same thing happened in Russia with the Czar and his family, but that's another story.

Marie Antoinette was put in the guillotine on October 16, 1793. On January 21, 1793, her husband, Louis XVI was in the guillotine. Many wealthy libertarians lost their heads for self indulgence and abuse of the populace. Read Marquis de Sade to get a feel for life in France at the time prior to the French Revolution.

The French Revolution started in 1789 and continued to 1799. Napoleon was Emperor of France from 1804-1814. By 1794, Napoleon was emerging as a leader in much the same way that Hitler emerged as a leader in 1933 with National Socialism.

In 1791, Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI became prisoners in their own home.

When all this was over, anyone could claim a throne, but the monarchy was abolished after Louis XVI. Pretenders to the throne are no different than the American woman that claimed to be Anastasia Romanov, a descendant to the Russian royal family ... pretenders.
So much nonsense one does not know where to start.

First leave us get the "let them eat cake" quote out of the way. Marie-Antoinette *NEVER* said this and indeed the phrase had been in use long before MA set foot in France. Her BIL the duce de Orleans may have helped spread this vile rumor as he poured fuel on various fires against the king, but that is where it stops far as MA is concerned.

The French Revolution was not because of Marie-Antoinette though she receives much of the blame in some circles. Being Austrian MA was hated in many quarters long before she arrived in France and little was done to take the young princess in hand after her arrival.

Did the Queen spend? Yes, but so did other royal women both then and in the past. France's financial problems actually began with Louis XIV bankrupting the treasury via endless wars and lavish spending including building Versailles. France's aid to the American Revolution didn't help matters either; but the real reasons for the revolt was a feudal system that had long lived it's usefulness far as the Third Estate and some others were concerned.

Both Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI gave often and large sums to charity. One Christmas MA told her daughter that she would receive no Christmas presents that year because she had spent her money on the poor (children) who truly had nothing.

The Royal Family were not imprisoned in their home (Versailles) but at first the Tuileries Palace. Being a royal residence one supposes it could be considered a home, but Louis XIV and his court spent their time and lived at Versailles.

Napoleon was a clever and skilled military who used his "fame" from some French victories to fill the power vacuum that had existed since the murder of Louis XVI. First by maneuvering himself with the aid of a widely agreed fraudulent election to become first Consul, then declared himself Emperor of France. The man himself said early in his career that the "Crown of France was not in disrepute, but that it only needed picking up out of the gutter with a sword".

There is no denying Bonaparte did many good things for France and Europe for that matter, but at the heart it was always about his "Glorie" as with any megalomaniac.

As for your statement that France abolished the monarchy in 1791, note there were two empires (Bonaparte) and the Bourbons restored twice since that date.

Anna Anderson was not a pretender but imposter, there is a difference. The Romanovs got it right not long after "Frau Unbekannt" was fished out of a German river and later while in hospital claimed to be GD Anastasia, even that was only after being told she was too short to have been her first choice GD Tatiana. She was Franziska Schanzkowska a Polish factory worker with a history of mental illness. That the woman got as far as she did with her story shows more about persons seeing what they are looking for than anything else.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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I think it's foolish to presume that everybody involved had the same goal. Different people, even if they agreed on wanting to remove Louis, had different objectives. And, after Louis was gone, they had to fight among themselves as to how to proceed. Same with many other Revolutions. American, Russian, etc.
That 'Estates General' was a frisky thing, eh??? Incredible to see them angling all for political influence and position at the time. Who would've thought it considering how French history was up to that point? Involve peasants in the affairs of state?? The bourgeoisie becoming 'revolutionists'???? The world turned upside down. Louis just didn't 'get it'. By the time he did they got to his 'head.'

If anything, that 'Declaration of the Rights of Man' which came out contending that man is indeed free having equal rights sure made an impression on the world particularly colonial America. And we have to give a hand to Monsieur Sieyes with his piece ' Quest-ce que le Tiers Etat?' (who is the Third Estate?) That arguably got the revolutionary ball rolling.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Can someone tell a bit about the French revolution? Why did it happen, and who was behind it? What had Napoleon 1 to do with the people behind the revolution? Why was someone from the rojalfamily that sat before the revolution put back on the throne after Napoleon 1 lost the war? Thanks
Book report time I assume...
In regards to Napoleon 1 - the simple answer is that Napoleon was just a artillery junior officer during the revolution, sitting in garrison duty in a far off post, and essentially had nothing to do with it in the early periods. But most of the military adapted to the new republic and Napoleon was an opportunist, so later "embraced" the revolution (as if he had a choice) and came to prominence due to some successful campaigns, made the right contacts - and the rest is history.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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Check out the status of the OP....86ed from the board. This poster then returned as "Slobotrevja" and denied any connection to Petrolava, an assertion that might have been more persuasive had not he or she decorated the topic on the front page with his or her signature lightbulb emoticon.

Anyway, Slobotrevja also appears to have been banned.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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OP, are you doing a book report? You need to forget what everyone else is saying and go at it from the Jew-run "conspiracy theory" angle. Your teacher will LOVE IT for reals!

Rock The Truth: Rothschilds Behind Every Revolution?

My hairdresser told me about this after she got through giving me a speaking-in-tongues scalp massage while she was shampooing my hair. I must say she was pretty convincing about it too...
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