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Old 03-25-2014, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Was Columbus secretly a Jew? - CNN.com

He was nominally Genoese, but was of Spanish extraction and was not literate in Italian Colon was a common name among Jews living in Itaily. He liked Jewish culture and marrano society. His interpreter, Luis de Torrees, was Jewish.

File under poetic justice if so.

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I am a stranger and a sojourner with you:
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:34 AM
 
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Was Columbus secretly a Jew? - CNN.com

He was nominally Genoese, but was of Spanish extraction and was not literate in Italian Colon was a common name among Jews living in Itaily. He liked Jewish culture and marrano society. His interpreter, Luis de Torrees, was Jewish.

File under poetic justice if so.
Why
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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How many Jewish parents name their child Christopher?
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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How many Jewish parents name their child Christopher?
Did you read the article? There seems to be quite a few indicators that Columbus might have very well been from a converso family who could have named a son Christopher to "prove" their Christianity.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Poorly stated by me, but to me it would be fitting if the most famous explorer of history turned out to be Jewish.

Migration is a big theme in Jewish history starting with the line from Abraham about being a 'stranger and sojourner.' And then there was the idea of 'diaspora' going back to the 8th century BC. In the time of Columbus, the idea of the 'wandering Jew' became a cliché, as Jews were expelled from one country to the next due to the anti-Semitism of the time.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: LaValle,WI
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Hard to say. Would not be surprised if he had some Jewish blood,I have heard that. Saying all of that,he was also Italian,so we are still claiming him too.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Hard to say. Would not be surprised if he had some Jewish blood,I have heard that. Saying all of that,he was also Italian,so we are still claiming him too.
If his family was Jewish, they may have fled Spain at some point because of the Inquisition and settled Genoa, which is not all that far away. Spain was not a very safe place for the conversos and marranos. Many emigrated to the New World where they were further from the eyes of the Inquisitors -- and many retained some of the Jewish customs even several generations after they converted to Catholicism.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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Did you read the article? There seems to be quite a few indicators that Columbus might have very well been from a converso family who could have named a son Christopher to "prove" their Christianity.
Yes I read it. I would not argue that there was no posibility that Columbus was Jewish, but the "evidence" presented covers only that...a possibility based on speculation arising from some leaps of logic, such as:
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On those documents, Columbus used a triangular signature of dots and letters that resembled inscriptions found on gravestones of Jewish cemeteries in Spain. He ordered his heirs to use the signature in perpetuity.
"resembled"...we are into Erich Von Daniken methodology with this. "That wall painting looks like a modern day astronaut, therefore it was an ancient astronaut."

Way, way too many blanks being filled in with wishful thinking.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Was it Columbus that discovered America? Thanks
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Was it Columbus that discovered America? Thanks
He "discovered" what he "thought" was the Indies...
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