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Old 04-25-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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None of these men ever existed
Really?? Prove that please. And while you're at it, I would also like proof that dinosaurs and The Ice Age were also myths.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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There's no doubt that Noah was a myth. There never was a world wide flood, and the human race continued just fine.

Moses is probably a fusion of several different culture hero tales, but there was no Exodus as described in the Bible. The book of Joshua is mostly fiction too. The conquest of Canaan did not happen, though the rural herders may have conducted raids on cities over an extended period of time. The Tribe of Dan were actually Philistines, or Indo-European sea peoples (probably Achaeans) who had been right there for a long time.

Abram/Abraham doesn't matter much because he really didn't do anything. Circumcision was an Egyptian practice adopted by the Canaanites.

Yahweh is a mash-up of sky god, mountain god, fire god and storm god. Religions are the original software vendors, and like modern software companies, when one company invents something before long they all have their own version. the Jews had to have a flood myth because the Babylonians had a flood myth, and they didn't want to seem ignorant in front of their customers.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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Well, Larry, all of that is just your opinion. Many others disagree
on every single opinion you just posted.
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Well, Larry, all of that is just your opinion. Many others disagree
on every single opinion you just posted.
I think he's pretty spot on. Always remember, we need evidence of existence, not evidence of nonexistence.
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Old 04-26-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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I think he's pretty spot on. Always remember, we need evidence of existence, not evidence of nonexistence.
What kind of evidence are you expecting from 4,000+ years ago ?
Funny how when the Egyptians write something down, you believe it,
but when the Hebrews do, it's just bosh, eh ?
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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What kind of evidence are you expecting from 4,000+ years ago ?
Funny how when the Egyptians write something down, you believe it,
but when the Hebrews do, it's just bosh, eh ?
There were no Hebrews 4000 years ago. The Torah was written about 2700 years ago. The language it was written in didn't even exist much more than 300 years before that. There are extensive written records from more advanced civilizations of the time.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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What kind of evidence are you expecting from 4,000+ years ago ?
Funny how when the Egyptians write something down, you believe it,
but when the Hebrews do, it's just bosh, eh ?
This is not accurate. The Egyptians wrote alot of silly supernatural nonsense that is believed by no one. No one here is defending any of the myths of Amun Ra and Osiris while dismissing the myths of Yahweh.
Things like great floods, burning bushes and parting seas we know are not true because they are physically impossible.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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This is not accurate. The Egyptians wrote alot of silly supernatural nonsense that is believed by no one. No one here is defending any of the myths of Amun Ra and Osiris while dismissing the myths of Yahweh.
Things like great floods, burning bushes and parting seas we know are not true because they are physically impossible.
It is, however, interesting to note the relationships of all the ancient religions in the Middle East. The Christian 'last judgment' is straight out of the myth of Osiris. Substantial portions of the Psalms are translations of hymns to other gods, with a few name changes. The veneration of Mary as Queen of Heaven is an adaptation of the worship of Isis. Heaven and Hell, and the God/Satan dualism are straight out of Zoroastrianism.

Whole volumes have been written on the supernatural stew that was the ancient Middle East.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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Folks should take into consideration that even cats like Herodotus and Strabo whom are generally accepted as historians, also wrote of gods and supernatural events.

No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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Old 04-28-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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There were no Hebrews 4000 years ago. The Torah was written about 2700 years ago. The language it was written in didn't even exist much more than 300 years before that. There are extensive written records from more advanced civilizations of the time.
Moses died around 2400 BCE and he wrote the "Five Books of Moses" otherwise known as the Torah. Thus making the Torah 4400 years old and not 2700 years old. As to the OP, they are all Asian (or commonly known as Mizrahi).
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