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Old 03-31-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves
Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves | Fox News

Saw the documentary on this. Had trouble sleeping that night. With all the evidence and eyewitnesses, it's scary how many still deny it ever happened and their numbers grow every generation.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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People don't deny it occurred, people debate the legitimacy of the narrative taught in Western schools / by the media. Like why would the Nazis destroy this camp 2 years before the end of the War if their goal was mass genocide.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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People don't deny it occurred,
Some certainly do.

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people debate the legitimacy of the narrative taught in Western schools / by the media.
Some people do and there is a name for them...

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Like why would the Nazis destroy this camp 2 years before the end of the War if their goal was mass genocide.
Well, if you ever studied WW2 and the Holocaust, you would know the answer to that. The "death camp" Treblinka II, not to be confused with Treblinka I which was a forced labor camp, was abandoned in 1943 following an uprising of the prisoners. The workers who had been held in section 2 of the camp launched an uprising in August of 1943. They caused extensive damage to the camp and the Nazi leadership chose to not repair the facility and wound down operations there, before demolishing the remaining ifrastructure.
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:38 AM
 
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Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves
Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves | Fox News

Saw the documentary on this. Had trouble sleeping that night. With all the evidence and eyewitnesses, it's scary how many still deny it ever happened and their numbers grow every generation.
It did happen. My uncle was one of the liberating troops that walked into Belsen camp (the largest taken in the west) on the first day. Mounds of dead bodies greeted them. He would graphically tell me about it - but only when in the right mood, otherwise he never ever mentioned it.
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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Some certainly do.



Some people do and there is a name for them...



Well, if you ever studied WW2 and the Holocaust, you would know the answer to that. The "death camp" Treblinka II, not to be confused with Treblinka I which was a forced labor camp, was abandoned in 1943 following an uprising of the prisoners. The workers who had been held in section 2 of the camp launched an uprising in August of 1943. They caused extensive damage to the camp and the Nazi leadership chose to not repair the facility and wound down operations there, before demolishing the remaining ifrastructure.
Article: "Nazis tore down their notorious Treblinka death camp"

Prisoners in a "death camp". Uprisings?

How gullible is Western perspective.
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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I could see this sort of thing 20 or years more down the line. Like when living adults whose parents and grandparents were ACTUALLY THERE are all dead.

But to cook up this whitewashing now? Amazing.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:13 PM
 
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Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves
Dig at Nazi camp reveals gas chamber, mass graves | Fox News

Saw the documentary on this. Had trouble sleeping that night. With all the evidence and eyewitnesses, it's scary how many still deny it ever happened and their numbers grow every generation.

Thanks for posting this. It's chilling, really. The Star or David on the gas chambers? Sickening.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this. It's chilling, really. The Star or David on the gas chambers? Sickening.
Germans in particular are noted for their attention to detail. The idea was to make the things seem like anything other than what they were, and at first it probably worked. But as more and more arrivals came inmates that had been around long enough to know would whisper/tell newcomers as they got off trains or whatever what the deal was. Many of course couldn't or wouldn't believe; they also didn't believe when those same persons also told them "you see/smell that smoke? that is your grandparents, your parents..."referring to the smell and smoke rising from the crematorium's chimneys.

Of course who would believe such a thing? Jews in Europe had been used to all sorts of discrimination and or violence, but *that* was simply beyond the pale. However it wouldn't take long before such persons understood the truth.

In Lithuanian villages they didn't bother with gas chambers; merely rounded up the local Jewish population (men, women and children) and shoved them into synagogues. The building would then be hermetically sealed and for two or more weeks those inside died in their own filth surrounded by corpses. At the end of that period the doors would be open and any remaining live Jews would be marched into the woods, forced to dig mass graves, then shot. It wasn't just the Nazi's that did this but Lithuanians as well, the same people that had been "friends" and neighbors of the very same Jews they were now killing. No force from the Germans was involved either, those that participated did so willingly.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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Germans in particular are noted for their attention to detail. The idea was to make the things seem like anything other than what they were, and at first it probably worked. But as more and more arrivals came inmates that had been around long enough to know would whisper/tell newcomers as they got off trains or whatever what the deal was. Many of course couldn't or wouldn't believe; they also didn't believe when those same persons also told them "you see/smell that smoke? that is your grandparents, your parents..."referring to the smell and smoke rising from the crematorium's chimneys.

Of course who would believe such a thing? Jews in Europe had been used to all sorts of discrimination and or violence, but *that* was simply beyond the pale. However it wouldn't take long before such persons understood the truth.

In Lithuanian villages they didn't bother with gas chambers; merely rounded up the local Jewish population (men, women and children) and shoved them into synagogues. The building would then be hermetically sealed and for two or more weeks those inside died in their own filth surrounded by corpses. At the end of that period the doors would be open and any remaining live Jews would be marched into the woods, forced to dig mass graves, then shot. It wasn't just the Nazi's that did this but Lithuanians as well, the same people that had been "friends" and neighbors of the very same Jews they were now killing. No force from the Germans was involved either, those that participated did so willingly.
And Jews back stabbed each other, willingly.
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:57 AM
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I am a pretty casual observer of WWII, not so much on the death camps, but if Treblnka is something new to someone, they have not been paying attention.
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