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Old 05-01-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: London
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While the Sten may have been quite widely used I don't think i'd say it was the most effective. To be that it would need to be more efficient at it's intended task than any other, it isn't.

I think it's difficult to narrow it down to one but my inclination (as an infantryman) would be towards these three:

PPSh-41
Thompson (magazine, not drum)
MP 40

I've stripped, cleaned and fired them all (also the Sten) and I wouldn't select it to use over any of my aforementioned three.
That says it. Those weapons were expensive and time consuming to make.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Pérouges
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That says it. Those weapons were expensive and time consuming to make.
Which is irrelevant to your given statement of "most effective".

If it were cheapness, ease of manufacture and width of distribution then possibly the Bren could stake a claim but that isn't what you said and that's what I have a differing view with.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: London
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Which is irrelevant to your given statement of "most effective".
Most effective in winning a war. The Sten did exactly what it was designed to do. This has been repeatedly stated in this thread.

You idea of a gun was it was nice to use.
A crude 2.5 ton 4x4 WW2 truck shifts loads just the same as a nice to drive modern truck. They both do exactly the same thing in their prime function.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:56 AM
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Yes, it was the most ineffective gun of WWII.

Good job the those dudes who got Heydrich had a back up bomb.
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Most effective in winning a war. The Sten did exactly what it was designed to do. This has been repeatedly stated in this thread.

You idea of a gun was it was nice to use.
A crude 2.5 ton 4x4 WW2 truck shifts loads just the same as a nice to drive modern truck. They both do exactly the same thing in their prime function.

Entirely without any substantiation.
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: London
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Entirely without any substantiation.
You really do not know.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Pérouges
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You idea of a gun was it was nice to use.
Could you please show me where I commented on how "nice" the weapons I mentioned (including the Sten) were to use? I'm somewhat nonplussed by the remark.

Your tangent on lorries however was a delight...
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Aloverton
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I think it would be funny if an Australian happened along to see the comments disparaging the Australian defenders of Singapore. All the Australians I know are just charmed any time someone, especially a Pom, suggests a less than exemplary evaluation of Australian fighting prowess.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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You really do not know.
I rely on genuine experts not BBC documentaries.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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I rely on genuine experts not BBC documentaries.
Well there is a difference between a real BBC documentary and a show piece for Jeremy Clarkson, who while being wildly entertaining is hardly an expert on much of anything outside of 6 figure exotic cars.
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