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Old 04-23-2014, 09:45 PM
 
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Ironic.

Democracy. Demos cratos. Rulership of the people.

Republic. Res publicum. Rule of the public (aka people).

Same darn thing. Latin vs Greek. Democratic republic is buttered butter. Tautology.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:35 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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democracy, 2 wolves and a lamb voting on whats for dinner
Democratic Republic, A armed lamb contesting the vote
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Why can't kids do there own homework assignments nowadays?
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
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The non-democratic republic is the one that calls itself a "Democratic Republic".

The word "Peoples" is another give-away.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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According to Wiki, "In modern times the definition of a republic is also commonly limited to a government which excludes a monarch." Irrespective of whether the power to rule extends all the way down to the citizenry. Most countries that are still monarchies (Norway, Canada, Spain, etc.) are de-facto republics, as the administration of the state is in the hands of elected representatives of the people who serve at the pleasure of a king who doesn't really have much to say about the matter, and would be immediately deposed if he pretended to have any authority in matters of state.

In order for a country to not be a de-facto republic, absolute power would need to be in the hands of a person who had either a hereditary or a theocratic accession to his title. I'm not sure there are any of those, except the Vatican. Even some of those, like Mauritania, call themselves "Islamic Republic", which is a clear oxymoron that goes unchallenged among docile and polite diplomats. The rest of the world just calls them what they say they want to be called, partly in French (the paradoxical "Republic of Côte d'Ivoire") if requested. (Even the USA has neither the gall nor the power to force everyone to cease and desist from calling it "l'Etats Unis" or "Chủng Quốc Hoa Kỳ" in their own language.)

In the case of a Democratic Republic, they almost invariably come about when somebody tells the president "you are not democratic" and he says "Yes I am, and I'll rename the republic to prove it".

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Old 05-02-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Some non-democratic republics:

The People's Republic of China
The Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics
Der Deutsche Demokratische Republik (East Germany)
The Islamic Republic of Iran
The Socialist Republic of Vietnam
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
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Rule of thumb - Any "Republic" in which that word is preceded by a qualifying adjective is pretty certain to be non-democratic, ie its ruler is really an absolute monarch under another name.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:54 PM
 
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Ironic.

Democracy. Demos cratos. Rulership of the people.

Republic. Res publicum. Rule of the public (aka people).

Same darn thing. Latin vs Greek. Democratic republic is buttered butter. Tautology.
democracy 1570s, from Middle French démocratie (14c.), from Medieval Latin democratia (13c.), from Greek demokratia "popular government," from demos "common people," .

republic c.1600, "state in which supreme power rests in the people via elected representatives," from Middle French république (15c.), from Latin respublica "the common weal.

I agree with the above statement. They are both words which represented common themes. The first one is traceable to Greek-> Latin->French->English, the second one is traceable Latin->French->English.

As a practical matter, most countries that are assembled from smaller states with a central government are called republics, while democracy refers to the amount of power given to the vote.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Marin County, CA
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"Republic" isn't a scientific term with a fixed meaning, and it has referred to different political structures over time. In the broad sense a republic is just a form of government where there is some type of governing power held by the public itself, rather than just a single monarch or dictator.

That may coincide with elections (a democratic republic) but it does not necessarily do so.

For example, imagine a country made up of smaller city-states. The head-of-state of the entire country is chosen from each city-state on a rotating basis, with a fixed-length term. The choice of candidate is determined by each city-state itself, maybe subject to veto by the leaders of the other city-states. So perhaps one city-state's candidate is chosen by a conclave of well-regarded city elders who get together Vatican-style until the white smoke rises from their chimney.

That would be a republic, but not a democratic republic, since public elections are not involved.
Best answer, and the only one that truly answers the question.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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What is the difference between a democratic republic and a non-democratic republic? Thanks
USA vs China
Both are Republics
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