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Old 04-29-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I was not the first person to call it genocide. E. San Juan, Jr.: U.S. Genocide in the Philippines

From a consensus of sources, it is certain that the Philippine civilian population was reduced by more than 10% during the three year period in which American occupation forces crushed the independence movement of the Philippine people. The rosiest minimum estimate is that 200,000 died from direct belligerent action, with only about 5% of those bearing arms. The rest died from disease and starvation under the neglect if not abuse by the American administration.

It has nothing to do with "white guilt" -- The USA today is barely majority white, and our foreign policy hasn't change a bit since 1900 in the Philipplines, not even under our Secret-Drone President, who does not appear to be white.
Genocide has been a popular catch all phrase for all of the USA(and some European countries) expansionist wars stretching back to printed works of the late 1960s.(Dee Brown and all that)

Well it is a benefit to read numerous points of view although it does not mean they are correct. It is very simplistic, as many tenure candidates today do, to argue a narrow topic without inclusion of external factors which do not fit their hypothesis.You must be aware how large the Phillipines is compared to how small the ability of the USA was at the time to project power and administer the people. The number of US forces involved in the Phillipines Insurrection was extremely small and did not involve the hallmark characteristics of genocide in killing men,women and children with little discrimination. Death from disease was common as other wars of the era also generated more fatalities from disease than from combat. Death from starvation would be expected in the Phillipines in the time frame of 1899-1902. No reason to believe otherwise.

There are numerous works with a contrasting point of view, some dated and some new. But I know something about you from your posts at C-D, that is to continuously defame the United States of America so I know you will never read them.

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Old 04-29-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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Indeed, and he shows his basic ignorance of facts by saying the US is barely majority white. Last census the US was 72.4% white.
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: London
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You should know about revisionist history, aren't you quoted in a previous post saying that if it wasn't for almightly Brittania we would all be speaking German right now?

Heck if we only had one battalion of British Soldiers in Vietnam the whole thing would be done in a year and Ho Chi Minh city would instead be called Harold Wilson city.
Not our war. Wilson kept us out. The US at the time were attempting to screw the UK financially then wanted the UK to join them Wilson thought otherwise. LBJ was such a dork.

The Brits has just won a war in South East Asia. The Brits also took the whole of Viet Nam, using British, Japanese and French troops, from 1945-46. For the UK WW2 never ended in 45, it was 46. So UK soldiers and expertise in such fighting would have meant clear victory in Viet Nam.
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