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During the last Ice Age, today's English Channel was dry land. It's reasonable to assume that there was free movement between what became the British Isles and the rest of adjacent Europe.
During the last Ice Age, today's English Channel was dry land. It's reasonable to assume that there was free movement between what became the British Isles and the rest of adjacent Europe.
There was a north-south divide of the British Isles. The Giants Causeway in N.I. has a similar rock formation as those on the shore of Scotland. Staffa if I remember correctly. It has been said that at one time people could walk from Ulster to Scotland.
The sea dividing Ulster from Ireland and Scotland from England ( both roughly speaking) was called the Iapetus Sea.
There was a north-south divide of the British Isles. The Giants Causeway in N.I. has a similar rock formation as those on the shore of Scotland. Staffa if I remember correctly. It has been said that at one time people could walk from Ulster to Scotland.
The sea dividing Ulster from Ireland and Scotland from England ( both roughly speaking) was called the Iapetus Sea.
I think that was a few hundred million years before any bipedal apes joined the party.
I think that was a few hundred million years before any bipedal apes joined the party.
Could be. At Mount Sandel near Coleraine they have found remains of settlements which date back to 7,000 BC. That's the earliest here. I don't know about mainland Britain. Whether they came by boat or walked across is a topic for the 'experts'.
Well actually, R1b is associated with the people who lived in Atlantic Europe before the last ice age, and who subsequently sought refuge in Iberia. Hence why R1b is so prevalent in the Basque region of Spain and the Celtic fringes of the British isles. Also, the Gaelic (Celtic) languages spoken in the British Isles contain words of a non-Indo-European origin.
According to a DNA study done by Stephen Oppenheimer:
Also: www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/features/mythsofbritishancestry
R1a seems to be more of an indicator of the Indo-European spread, as it was derived from the Ukrainian ice age refuge, and it is the predominant Haplogroup in northern India as well as in Poland, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Czech Rep, and Slovakia.
Haplogroup I (which originated in the Balkan refuge) is predominant in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, but also in Sweden and Norway.
No, the people that took refuge in the glacier shelters in nowdays France and Spain were not Indoeuropean, not R1b, spoke no Indoeuropean and were Neolithic.
No, the people that took refuge in the glacier shelters in nowdays France and Spain were not Indoeuropean, not R1b, spoke no Indoeuropean and were Neolithic.
I know they were not Indoeuropean. If they were not R1b then what was their Haplogroup? And how can they be Neolithic?
It's possible the British Isles were not uninhabited by man
at any time since the beginning, just as the British Isles were
not uninhabited by animals. When it broke off from the continent,
animals and perhaps people were living there (as it was attached
to the continent); those closer to the interior survived the breaking
apart. I mean, all the animals didn't swim over the English Channel
or the Irish Sea. Therefore its not unreasonable to believe that
men didn't migrate over the waters to get there either.
I disagree. Animals of all kinds float on detritus. Any big storm washes them up on different shores, and humans as well. The English Channel is not a huge crossing. The Dover Straits are only 33 km wide- about 20 miles.
Boats are very, very ancient. All it takes to make a boat is lighting a fire in the middle of a big log.
And humans since the beginnings of homo sapiens have brought animals along wherever they rambled.
Homo Sapiens arrived 40 to 44.000 years ago.
There were Neanderthals 100.000 ago. Also pre-Neanderthals, Heidelbergensis, 200.000 to 300.000 years and also the specie previous to Heidelbergensis, Homo Antecessor, probably more than 800.000 years ago.
They were forced in and out by glaciations.
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