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Old 09-10-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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I don't think we can really conclusively prove or disprove if ol' Ezra was hung. Maybe letters from old girlfriends exist. Who knows?

I always liked Pound's poetry. I do not like Hemingway's worldview, either. But that doesn't mean I'll boycott his books. (Or Pound's poems. Or Orff's music.)
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Ezra Pound, writer of notoriously unreadable and unintelligible so called poetry, was convicted of treason after World War II for making propaganda broadcasts for the Axis aimed at audiences in the Allied nations. Yet, Pound avoided being executed and was confined to St. Elizabeth's mental hospital for years where he continued to write so called poetry, do interviews, and even have sex with women. Did Pound have people "pulling the strings" for him - perhaps high up people in government who shared his antisemitic views? Why wasn't he put to death?
Bad genetics? I'm not sure, but the rumor is that HE WAS!!
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't know, I just came here to say, "hanged."
Me too, I was going to answer the title by saying I supposed it was in his genes.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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You know I think it can be said Pound's approach to economics helped to order his views on Jews and on Fascism. I can't help thinking that he would really excoriate bankers and the financial system today. The poems would be flyin' fast and furious, i.e. maybe they'd be 'The Banker Cantos' right next to the Pisan ones...;-)...
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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I don't think we can really conclusively prove or disprove if ol' Ezra was hung. Maybe letters from old girlfriends exist. Who knows?

I always liked Pound's poetry. I do not like Hemingway's worldview, either. But that doesn't mean I'll boycott his books. (Or Pound's poems. Or Orff's music.)
Big difference between Hemingway and Pound. Hemingway was not on the payroll of the enemy making propaganda broadcasts and advocating that Italian youth become suicide bombers to kill his countrymen.
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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And regarding Ernest on Pound, I think he even stood up for him. But I'm not sure if he couldn't tolerate some things he did while the war was going on. I mean Ernest himself was out there 'hunting' the enemy.
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Big difference between Hemingway and Pound. Hemingway was not on the payroll of the enemy making propaganda broadcasts and advocating that Italian youth become suicide bombers to kill his countrymen.
Agreed. But I still don't care for either man's worldview. Hemingway's machismo swagger was merely "distasteful," not traitorous.

Doesn't stop me from enjoying their work.
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Old 09-10-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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P.G. Wodehouse, my very favorite writer, was marooned in France in June, 1940. He spent the war in a German internment camp and actually made, naively, a few humorous broadcasts. The British were outraged so, when the war ended, he came to the United States. The Brits eventually forgave him, giving him a knighthood. But he still spent the remainder of his very productive life on Long Island writing very funny books and developing a passion for baseball, most notably the New York Mets.

More on the subject here: P G Wodehouse: filthy traitor or frightful ass? - Telegraph

Thank God for that! What would one do without Jeeves and Wooster one does not know!


Stephanie 'Stiffy' Byng: Bertie, I think you're a pig!
Bertie: A pig, maybe, but a shrewd, level-headed pig, a pig who was not born yesterday and who has seen a thing or two.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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I hate to be a pendant too, but that kinda annoyed me.

Because asking why wasn't Ezra Pound "hanged" asks why he wasn't executed. Asking why Ezra Pound wasn't "hung" asks why Ezra Pound didn't have a large penis.

I don't know. Maybe he really was asking about the size of Ezra's package.
He was. It weighed a pound, The women referenced in OP pulled the strings. And he got off!
The women notoriously exclaimed how they could squeeze an ounce from a Pound.
And if grammatically analogous to the OP, the women stated they got pun'd by a Poet named Pound.

Seriously, this thread is ripe for ribald responses.

As few others have mentioned (I've only read some of Pound's work and it was long ago) it seems his peers in literary world stood up for him in expressing his views however repellant they may have been to some. It's a far cry from today's politically correct ridiculousness.

Also, to put this in richer context recall that the elites of the day (post WW2) had no problem adopting and securing intelligentsia of the enemy for their own purposes (Operation Paperclip)

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note: placing someone in a Mental Hospital may or may not always have to be to protect but to marginalize and quell legitimate dialogue.

Funny aside: Ezra Pound in certain photos

he looked like an enraged broken Burgess Meredith after his eyeglasses break in that Twilight Zone episode.

"My eyeglasses! These books, I can't read them! Argghhh!"
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Old 09-10-2014, 09:02 PM
 
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Me too, I was going to answer the title by saying I supposed it was in his genes.
You are probably right!
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