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Old 09-23-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?
Wow you don't know much basic American history, do you?

The U.S. declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941 after being attacked the previous day. On December 9 Germany declared war on us.

France had surrendered in June 1940, over a year before we got into the war.

Jews were officially oppressed/repressed by the Nazis starting in 1933 when Hitler was elected chancellor. Germany started the war on September 1, 1939 by invading Poland, causing Britain and France to declare war on Germany. The mass exterminations didn't begin until later in the war.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Over yonder a piece
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I seem to recall from my history studies in college (which were 20+ years ago) that FDR wanted to enter the war effort, but the American people were disinclined because of all the issues taking place on the homefront (notably: the Depression), and he listened and focused on improving America during his first term as President. The net of Isolationism was in full effect in America.

As a result, he worked surreptitiously to provide the Allied powers with fortifications and encouragement in the late 1930s, despite Congress passing a neutrality law that forbade providing assistance to foreign powers under siege. In 1939 Roosevelt begged Congress to reconsider their determination to remain neutral, and they agreed. At that point FDR was able to openly provide his support to the Allies.

His involvement continued in early 1941 with the passage of the Lend Lease Act, which provided war materials to struggling countries whose eventual success directly effected the US security.

Once Pearl Harbor took place, Americans were finally ready to shed Isolationism and send troops to actively fight against those who were against America. Namely, Japan and its allies. However, shortly thereafter the war widened to include Germany and Italy, since those two countries were threatening to topple the main US allied countries.

So no, to answer the OP's original question, no, we did not join the war specifically to save the Jews. But it became a net effect once the Allies began defeating Germany, forcing them to shut down their camps.

Man, I love history.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Central Nebraska
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Americans dismissed rumors of the Holocaust until American soldiers began liberating concentration camps in the final weeks of World War II in Europe. The reason for this had to do with British propaganda efforts in World War I that told of the horrible things the Germans were supposedly doing in Belgium. We'd been fooled back then and weren't about to be fooled this time. It sounded too much like the ficticious Belgian Holocaust of World War I.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?
No.

The US did absolutely nothing to protect or save the Jews, it was a reaction to being attacked by Japan and the alliance between Japan and Germany and the fact that Germany was a threat to the US.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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Come on people, can't you see that the OP is baiting you ? He/She hasn't responded to any of the posts. It's such a stupid statement that it couldn't be true.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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No.

The US did absolutely nothing to protect or save the Jews, it was a reaction to being attacked by Japan and the alliance between Japan and Germany and the fact that Germany was a threat to the US.
To be fair, the United States officially got "involved" (as the OP wrote) prior to Pearl Harbor.

The Destroyers for Bases Agreement in which we sent 50 mothballed destroyers the British and Canadian Royal Navys in September '40, in exchange for naval base rights in Canada, the West Indies and other places (plus followed by another ten newer Coast Guard cutters in '41).

Then, the U.S. passed the Lend-Lease Act in March of '41, which ramped up some $50billion (1941 billion, about $550 billion today) of war aid to GB, USSR, France and other Allies.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Come on people, can't you see that the OP is baiting you ? He/She hasn't responded to any of the posts. It's such a stupid statement that it couldn't be true.
The fact that the OP has posted over 700 times told me he wasn't a troll, but maybe someone who truly never studied WWII origins and consequences. There are a lot of people who don't know that stuff because most public schools spend WAY too much time teaching up through the Civil War and Reconstruction but generally run out of time at the end of the school year before they can get to the 20th Century.

I didn't really learn the ins and outs about WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam until I went to college and minored in History. College is when I fell in love with History - I had an amazing professor who made it come alive for all his students. Many of us took him every single semester even though he was considered the toughest History professor on campus.

Had I not taken his class my freshman year, I probably would not have minored in History at all and thus not learned much about 20th C. history myself other than what I saw in movies. So I kind of assumed that for the OP.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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To be fair, the United States officially got "involved" (as the OP wrote) prior to Pearl Harbor.

The Destroyers for Bases Agreement in which we sent 50 mothballed destroyers the British and Canadian Royal Navys in September '40, in exchange for naval base rights in Canada, the West Indies and other places (plus followed by another ten newer Coast Guard cutters in '41).

Then, the U.S. passed the Lend-Lease Act in March of '41, which ramped up some $50billion (1941 billion, about $550 billion today) of war aid to GB, USSR, France and other Allies.
Yeah, but we didn't declare war until the end of '41. That was more "Cold War" type stuff.
And none was motivated by a moral desire to help the Jews.

If we have learned nothing else from our history, we have learned that we don't care when genocide is happening: Armenia, the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, Rwanda, Sudan, etc. We only intervene when our economy is at risk.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Come on people, can't you see that the OP is baiting you ? He/She hasn't responded to any of the posts. It's such a stupid statement that it couldn't be true.
Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
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Old 09-23-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Did The US Really Go Into WW2 Because Of Jews?

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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?

<sniff>

hmmm...

Smells a bit trollish in here.
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