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Old 09-28-2014, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Finally escaped The People's Republic of California
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2. The Battaan Death March:
After there defeat at Custers Last Stand, Ronald Reagan and his Rough Riders were marched 12 miles to Battaan Wyoming, where they were severely reprimanded by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel ( the Mountain Rabbit) for conduct unbecoming.
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:30 PM
 
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3. The Battle of Midway:
A small group of American PT Boats commanded by Admiral Stone Wall Jackson repeatedly circled the Alaskan island of Midway, fooling the attacking British Battleship Bismark into thinking they were a much larger force. With the hesitation of the British Commander Yammamoto the American PT Boats were able to submerge and fire thier depth charges beating the much larger force....
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:58 PM
 
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4. The battle of the Bulge.
The German Admiral Patton tried attacking the Allies at the small crossroad town of Bulge, Missouri. The initial attack drove the Allies back into the Pacific Ocean, after reinforcements arrived the Allies once again charged up the Missouri shoreline under the leadership of Corporal Bernard Montgomery, they were able to establish a foot hold on the beach. Eventually driving the Nazi's back into the Teton Mountain range. It was thought the Allies were going win an unexpected victory but private Benedict Arnold gave the Allied attack plans to Nazi Spy Tokyo Lilly, and the nazi were able to defeat Blooby Bill Anderson and his tank battalion..Nazi Captain Omar Ozark changed the name of the mountain range the The Ozarks, and it is still named that today, to memorialize the German Victory over Allied forces on American Soil.
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Old 09-28-2014, 11:02 PM
 
Location: southern california
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its not the killing that was the red flag it was the mass herding of human beings branding them and putting them in box cars to be exterminated in gas powered slaughter houses, that troubled us. you know, the events you say never happened.
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Okay, we have had some creative humor from Grandstander and the BassMan, but the truth is we went to war because of what Prime Minister Hideki Tojo and Admiral Isoroko Yamamoto did.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: NW Indiana
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Wow.... They don't teach history anymore?
Dr Pizza, look these up, they are quite interesting....
1. Dec, 7th 1941... The Italian Navy launches a large attack on Pearl Harbor, Georgia, where the Spanish Armada is based, thereby forcing the Mexican Government to declare war on Canada. Which gave us no choice but to drop a nuke on Berlin, thereby defeating Stalin and his nazi cronies.
Brilliant response!

I also instantly thought "Big, nasty, mean Troll!" when I saw this original post.

However, I will overlook that and just confirm that in my opinion, the United Stated did not go to war because of Hitler's actions regarding the jews. It is even likely that the inaction on the part of the leaders of the free world to not address this latest persecution of the Jewish people sooner helped lead to the decision of many to help establish the state of Israel.
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Old 09-29-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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I don't think so, they were pulled into the war because of their conflict with Japan. After the Pearl Harbor Attack (a retaliation for crippling Japan's economy through cutting their oil supplies), the US sought to completely destroy Japan. After the US declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US and they were thus sucked into the war in Europe. The liberation of the Nazi concentration camps were a byproduct of the US' end game of retaliating against Japan. Had the US not been in conflict with Japan, the Nazi's would have gone unchecked by the US for a lot longer and the concentration camps would have continued to run, unfortunately.
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Old 09-29-2014, 03:56 PM
 
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?
Haven't you answered you own question?
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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I don't think so, they were pulled into the war because of their conflict with Japan. After the Pearl Harbor Attack (a retaliation for crippling Japan's economy through cutting their oil supplies), the US sought to completely destroy Japan.
Though the attack on Pearl Harbor was ultimately part of a chain of events that included embargoes on Japan, it wasn't a retaliation - it was an intended means to a practical end (regardless of the ill-advised nature of the overall plan of which it was a part).

The Japanese move into the Dutch East Indies and Malaya in order to secure such materiel as oil and rubber would leave the U.S. forces in the Philippines in a position in which they could severely compromise Japanese supply lines. Given the decision to move against those European colonies, and given the assumption that the U.S. would then intervene, it made sense to preemptively invade the Philippines. Then, given that overt act of war against the U.S., it further made sense to strike the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl in order to delaythe inevitable counterstrike as long as possible.

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After the US declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US and they were thus sucked into the war in Europe. The liberation of the Nazi concentration camps were a byproduct of the US' end game of retaliating against Japan. Had the US not been in conflict with Japan, the Nazi's would have gone unchecked by the US for a lot longer and the concentration camps would have continued to run, unfortunately.
Not all that much longer.

There is this pervasive line of thought that holds that the U.S. public thought it could avoid war, and was above all else bound and determined not to join the war. This is not so, and the isolationist faction was diminishingly steadily as the months and years passed.

For example, consider this Gallup poll from before the attack on Pearl Harbor:
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Interviewing Date 11/15-20/41
Which of these two things do you think is the more important — that this country keep out of war, or that Germany be defeated?
Keep out of war..................... 32%
Defeat Germany..................... 68
Americans did not want to enter the war, but the writing was on the wall. And the public always considered Germany the greater threat to American security than Japan - even after Pearl Harbor.

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Interviewing Date 12/12-17/41
Which country is the greater threat to America's future — Germany or Japan?
Germany........................... 64%
Japan.............................. 15
Equal threats........................ 15
No opinion......................... 6
Given such sentiments and the increasingly hot war in the North Atlantic between the American and German navies in the latter half of 1941, and steadily shifting public sentiment, that even had the Japanese neither attacked Pearl, the Philippines, or the European colonies (minus Vichy French Indochuina, of course, which had been seized in 1940), I believe that by mid-1942 a formal state of war would have existed between the U.S. and Germany, and had Germany not gone first the U.S. would have done so.

Also, despite the Europe First policy, plenty of men and money and materiel were poured into the Pacific. Absent a Pacific Theater, many of those resources go to Europe, at least in part making up for a somewhat delayed entry into the European war.

Finally, there was the Manhattan Project, which was begun not with Japan but with Germany in mind. As it happens, the bombs simply were not ready until some months after V-E Day. But come mid-summer 1945, B-29s based out of the UK or Italy (while a delay in the U.S. getting into the European War might have stopped Overlord from happening even by the summer of 1945, I'm guessing the Allies would still have taken at least southern Italy by then) are going to start dropping nuclear weapons on Hamburg, the Ruhr, Berlin, etc.
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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The US let Hitler kill the Jews for 10 years ? Are you joking ?? Did you forget about France , Britian , the USSR and a few other European countries fighting the Germans way before the US did ? Did they let Hitler kill the Jews also ? I dont think anyone or country LET Hitler kill the Jews ? Ron
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