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Old 10-05-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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The Nubian civilizations are getting more and more well known. Herodotus writes about them extensively if you are interested. .
Now it is. I would like to see some of Herodotus' work.

The more I read about things like Nubia, Meroe, and the like, the more upset I get because this wasn't taught to me in school. I never knew that it was in Timbuktu that there were documents, where scholars there found that the earth revolved around the sun. This was found long before Galileo or Copernicus were born. I found this out watching a travel show by Michael Palin.

Sometimes I am not surprised it was never taught to me.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Now it is. I would like to see some of Herodotus' work.

The more I read about things like Nubia, Meroe, and the like, the more upset I get because this wasn't taught to me in school. I never knew that it was in Timbuktu that there were documents, where scholars there found that the earth revolved around the sun. This was found long before Galileo or Copernicus were born. I found this out watching a travel show by Michael Palin.

Sometimes I am not surprised it was never taught to me.
Skip Gates and Dr Gus Casely-Hayford both have wonderful documentaries on both the Nubians and West Africa, with Timbuktu as one of the focuses. You can find them on Youtube.

My favorite anecdote from Herodotus comes after Cambysis the Persian Emperor sends emissaries to test the strength of the Nubians. The emissary brings them gifts including wine, perfume, and fine clothing.

The Nubian king hands back the perfume and clothing as says "we have no need for these. These are to hide how ugly you are and how badly you smell."

He drinks the wind and admits that it is good. "You would probably die much younger if you did not have this fine drink since you are **** eaters."

He then hands the emissary a bow and tells him: "That is my bow. Any man in my army can string I. You tell your Emperor that he should invade my kingdom if he can find even one man who can string it in his. If not, stay away."

The Persians cannot find a man to string the bow, but invade anyway. There is never even a battle, as the desert swallows them up. They never invade Nubia again.

The Nubians were both cultural partners and great enemies to the Egyptians, contributing troops and dynsaties. They also defended Nubia against Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and others. They had some of the best archers in the world, made fine cavalry, trained elephants (including, probably Hannibal's) had their own pyramids and writing, served on both sides of the crusades, remained a relevant power until the 19th century, challenging even Britain. A great people.
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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Now it is. I would like to see some of Herodotus' work.

The more I read about things like Nubia, Meroe, and the like, the more upset I get because this wasn't taught to me in school. I never knew that it was in Timbuktu that there were documents, where scholars there found that the earth revolved around the sun. This was found long before Galileo or Copernicus were born. I found this out watching a travel show by Michael Palin.

Sometimes I am not surprised it was never taught to me.
just an alternate thought that education is to learn on your own. Follow your interests and read and learn. that is how discoveries are made, just like you just did with Timbuktu documents.
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Haven't checked this out yet but not surprised how just by the title, they've racialized history right from the start.

I'll chime in again once I checked out the program in full.

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