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Old 02-14-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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What is everyone's thoughts on the Malcolm X assassination that occurred 50 years ago? I did research on YouTube on Malcolm X speeches and press conferences at around the time he was gunned down. I could not believe what I heard. My opinion is he was incredibly stupid, especially for a family man. Obviously he was disillusioned and disappointed in the philandering behavior of Elijah Muhammad but he was more than bold in talking to the media about the many illegitimate children of Elijah and his hypocrisy. He should have known there was a better way, especially since the Nation followers were so devout.
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Old 02-14-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I cannot take someone seriously who deliberately selects the surname X.

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Old 02-14-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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I cannot take someone seriously who deliberately selects the surname X.
I'm not sure if you're simply joking, but his choice of using 'X' had a lot of deep symbolic meaning to him.
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:15 PM
 
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Unfortunately, Malcolm was a victim of the times where supreme ignorance and klan behavior reigned. He was among four very prominent and influential people who were gunned down, great people who fought for civil rights and equality. All four were more articulate and more effective in conveying their message than anyone in American history. They were leaders, men far ahead of their time, and what they represented shamed the pathetic element of this country defined by anti-black sentiment, klan, and Dixie. But ignorance prevailed in killing off all four: Malcolm, MLK, JFK, and RFK.

Ignorance of course exists on both sides, and the Nation of Islam showed they are far from progressive. They were part of the problem. Malcolm exposed the Nation of Islam and its leader. He was loyal to the Nation of Islam, committed to its values better than its own leader. Yet Malcolm had evolved, which can happen when you're well-read and keep an open mind. He went from being a complete separatist and black militant to a man of inclusion. In the end, he invited all people, of all races and religions, to join in the fight against racism by whites against black people. His new approach was ahead of its time, and IMO eclipsed the separatist message of the Nation of Islam. The Nation of Islam should've been killed off, not Malcolm, IMO.

If the Nation of Islam killed Malcolm, they certainly were allowed to do so. Anyone who wanted to kill him didn't have to try very hard to succeed. It seemed as easy as walking to the corner store to get a quart of milk. No protection by the police, the FBI, or the CIA for this prominent, influential celebrity despite his knowledge and public statements that he was going to be gunned down. There was no investigation, no monitoring, no inquiries, no precautions taken, by any of the organizations sworn to protect the citizens of this country. It was as if all such organizations were run by the klan. So there it was, Malcolm gunned down while making a speech to a group of people who were no more threatening than the Pope.

Shameful period in American history, eclipsed only by Slavery and Jim Crow.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Malcolm X' autobiography contains some very interesting points regarding the subjugation of any minority by a dominant culture in which it is forced into a subservient role. That is the single most important part of his thoughts, much of the rest is simply the ramblings of a man fighting such a system -- and the nonsensical treatment of many scientific and economic issues discredits much of his clearer thinking.

But it's important to recognize as well that Malcolm X died by violence within little more than a year after his rise to prominence -- and that that rise, and fall, were occasioned by intensifying violence, instituted not by "evil white men in suits", but by strife within the factions of which he was a part.

We will never know what he might have become, and there are many pretenders and charlatans out there trying to harness that point for their own advancement.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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Unfortunately, Malcolm was a victim of the times where supreme ignorance and klan behavior reigned. He was among four very prominent and influential people who were gunned down, great people who fought for civil rights and equality. All four were more articulate and more effective in conveying their message than anyone in American history. They were leaders, men far ahead of their time, and what they represented shamed the pathetic element of this country defined by anti-black sentiment, klan, and Dixie. But ignorance prevailed in killing off all four: Malcolm, MLK, JFK, and RFK.

Ignorance of course exists on both sides, and the Nation of Islam showed they are far from progressive. They were part of the problem. Malcolm exposed the Nation of Islam and its leader. He was loyal to the Nation of Islam, committed to its values better than its own leader. Yet Malcolm had evolved, which can happen when you're well-read and keep an open mind. He went from being a complete separatist and black militant to a man of inclusion. In the end, he invited all people, of all races and religions, to join in the fight against racism by whites against black people. His new approach was ahead of its time, and IMO eclipsed the separatist message of the Nation of Islam. The Nation of Islam should've been killed off, not Malcolm, IMO.

If the Nation of Islam killed Malcolm, they certainly were allowed to do so. Anyone who wanted to kill him didn't have to try very hard to succeed. It seemed as easy as walking to the corner store to get a quart of milk. No protection by the police, the FBI, or the CIA for this prominent, influential celebrity despite his knowledge and public statements that he was going to be gunned down. There was no investigation, no monitoring, no inquiries, no precautions taken, by any of the organizations sworn to protect the citizens of this country. It was as if all such organizations were run by the klan. So there it was, Malcolm gunned down while making a speech to a group of people who were no more threatening than the Pope.

Shameful period in American history, eclipsed only by Slavery and Jim Crow.
So it's the white man's fault that the nation of Islam murdered one of their own leaders, at a Gathering of the nation, even though it was planned and pre-meditated by the nation of islam based on him speaking the truth about the hypocrisy within?

Walk me through that. News flash. We aren't here to protect you from yourselves. At least not back then. Although, God knows we have turned society upside down to do so since. Git yo hand outta mah pocket! Indeed.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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So it's the white man's fault that the nation of Islam murdered one of their own leaders, at a Gathering of the nation, even though it was planned and pre-meditated by the nation of islam based on him speaking the truth about the hypocrisy within?

Walk me through that. News flash. We aren't here to protect you from yourselves. At least not back then. Although, God knows we have turned society upside down to do so since. Git yo hand outta mah pocket! Indeed.
You do know about COINTELPRO right? How the FBI tried to sow dissension in any organization it deemed a threat? That included the Nation of Islam.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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You do know about COINTELPRO right? How the FBI tried to sow dissension in any organization it deemed a threat? That included the Nation of Islam.
Guys in funny hats. But, they didn't kill him, did they? The nation of Islam and it's leaders, did. Keep your eye on the ball. It's not like whitey killed him by proxy, did he? When will anyone on that side of the aisle ever acknowledge its own problems?
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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History politicized lately to a bizarre degree. Well it is Black History Month. OP misspelled assassination.

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Old 02-16-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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You do know about COINTELPRO right? How the FBI tried to sow dissension in any organization it deemed a threat? That included the Nation of Islam.
Even the Nation of Islam doesn't buy that story. lol.
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