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Old 10-27-2014, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Central Nebraska
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My mother was eight years old and sent away to live with her grandmother in another state. She didn't even know the lady. She was one of five children and lost her entire everything.

Another depression would actually HELP people get their priorities and heads on straight. OR actually using some COMMON SENSE.
When I was growing up in the 60s and early 70s and the old folks were talking about what is now called the Boomer Generation it was fairly common to hear one of the old folks say, "What this country needs is a good Depression!" and to this they all agreed.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:20 PM
 
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People are going to have sex no matter what. Better to have birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies because abstinence certainly does not work.

Marijuana is far less pernicious than alcohol or cigarettes while having abundant medicinal properties. It should be legalized. The war on drugs has drained resources and destroyed generations of men and women.

Women should have the right to do what they want with their bodies. They are the ones carrying the child. If they don't want it, they should not be forced to carry it. It should be their choice.

Everyone should be entitled to a basic level of subsistence, which should include food if they cannot support themselves.

Having access to the Internet and a phone is pretty much a necessity at this point. Most jobs cannot be applied to without the Internet and without a way to be contacted regularly you are not going to get a job. This isn't the world of the 90s where you could walk into a business and get a job face-to-face. You pretty much have to go through websites now. The only businesses I have seen that do face-to-face hiring are small businesses and there certainly aren't many jobs in those to go around. And they rarely pay well.

When people are making the minimum wage or only just above it and are unable to afford the basics of life, that is a problem. Between a dearth of jobs and jobs that pay well, what are you to do? And it isn't always possible to get multiple jobs, especially when so many minimum wage or near minimum wage jobs demand that you maintain wild schedules of availability.

I'm with you on preventing illegal immigrants from entering the country even if I sympathize with their plight and understand their motives.

And there is certainly a war on women. Your attitude towards women and abortion is one such aspect of that war. But there is far more than that. This country has a long way to go to achieving equality between men and women.
Have all the sex you want; why should I PAY for it?

BTW I'm a female. So OK I'm creating a war on women LOLOL.

I find your comments pretty funny considering you posted THIS:

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Honestly, I just think a prostitute is the best choice at this point. If you are going to pay, at least know you are going to score.
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As much as I possibly can. If I can get away with doing nothing, I will.

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Old 10-28-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Southern MN
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Reading the interchange between runswithscissors and Bad Juju reminded me of a contrast between the Depression Era and now. That is the high value society held on moral principles still during the thirties. Conditions were such that sometimes, for existence's sake, those values were violated. But it was still considered good form to give the appearance of being upright and honest. People generally understood that good behavior, honesty and trust were the glue that would hold them together.

I'm in mind of the prostitute with a heart of gold, the Mafia Code of Brotherhood and other clichés that we associate with deviant behavior from those times.

Today that is called hypocrisy and, in an attempt to avoid that apparently greatest of all social evils, we are encouraged to violate moral principles boldly as outdated models of social behavior. I don't think we've benefited from that new honesty.
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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War on Women today....big joke.

How many here have seen a version of a Stagg Film from the late 1920-30 period.....let alone know they existed?

Those women were never exploited or abused...it was the MONEY....the MONEY....the MONEY.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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When I was in the Navy many years ago, I had a chat with a guy who enlisted in West Virginia as a teenager in the 1930s. He said he had never worn shoes before, and when they issued him a pair of boots, he walked backwards for half a mile just to see his footprints. He said he went home on Leave after boot camp and told his friends the Navy was giving away free shoes, and they all went down to the recruiter to sign up. He may have been pulling my leg a bit, but his story did point out the extreme poverty that many people were experiencing in those days.
My dad told the tale of a young man who was part of his unit in the navy. They shared tents. This young man came from the far backwoods and they didn't often bathe. He'd never seen a car let alone a jeep either. After he passed from tent to tent they were near a river and he as given his first bath. And they washed his clothes. His family bathed a few times a year.

I can't verify it this is true, but a survey of people done in the Appalatchias in the thirties had stories like this. The war and the changing nature of most areas opened up places where time had stood still.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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My paternal Grandfather was hoping a freight train looking for work. An official called "the Bull" came into the car and ordered all bums off. Grandpa was a bit slow so the Bull whacked him with a club. This knocked Grandpa off ballance so he landed under the wheels of the train which was moving. Grandpa was killed. This left Grandma totally destitute. But according to his tombstone Grandpa had served in the Army during the Spanish-American War of 1898. This meant that his widow was entitled to a veteran's pension. A kindly war clerk (back then the Department of Defense was known as the Department of War (Army) and Deparment of the Navy) helped her with the paperwork and Grandma recieved the pension. for the rest of her life this was her only source of income. It pays about as much as Social Security does today, a little more. Incidently, these veteran's pensions are still available to anyone who has served during a time of war--even if you were not in a war zone but served Stateside. If you served during the time of the Korean or Viet-Nam wars----even only 24 hours--you qualify. Anyone who has served since August of 1991 to no cut-off date as of yet will also qualify due to the Jihad Wars.
I'm pretty sure that's deployed to a war zone, area, country, whatever. At least it is now.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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the great depression is great hype, it's propaganda put out by the
Federal Reserve system cronies and their educational econocrat
media whistle dogs.
my grandparents lived through it, and had nothing bad to say about
these years. hard-working men who weren't educated, that's my
family.. they were minorities also, italian and french.. my italian
great-grandfather bought a whole street of land in the 30s. there
were speakeasies and communities helped each other out.
anyway i've spoken to quite a few locals about it in my lifetime
and for some reason, it appears the "great depression" could be
an exagerrated myth suited for the purpose of instilling trust and
power to the banks. i'm not saying it's all fiction, it isn't, of course,
but there's also a lot of spin involved in its presentation to students
whom the establishment is attempting to indoctrinate with socialist themes.
Whippersnapper.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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My father grew up on a farm in Iowa. He enlisted in the Army in 1937, so I'm guessing farm life was not to his liking. My mother was the daughter of a construction tradesman and school teacher. She started cranking out the kids as soon as they were married. From what I remember of their conversations, they and their families got by in the 30's but there were no luxuries. I believe the agricultural-based regions such as Iowa were able to survive, even if they didn't exactly prosper in those years. My father made a career out of the Army and my mother was a full-time homemaker. They never got back to Iowa except to visit.
Your father may have enlisted so that he could send money to the family. Dad sent most of his pay to his widowed mother during his service in WWII.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:34 AM
 
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When I think of the thirties I always remember a single sentence from my mother. If we hadn't had family living on a farm we would have starved to death.
My grandfather and his brother did starve. Their father passed away when they were very small, and there was no Social Security or widow's benefits back then, or aid to single moms. So his mom had to clean houses to support her 2 kids, and it's not possible to feed 3 people on housecleaning wages. So they often only got 1 meal/day, and they were lucky to have that. She really pushed them to do well in school, so they could go to university on scholarships, which they did. Back then, that was easier than it is now. They both did well for themselves, and pulled their mom out of poverty and supported her in their adulthood.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:37 AM
 
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My father grew up on a farm in Iowa. He enlisted in the Army in 1937, so I'm guessing farm life was not to his liking. My mother was the daughter of a construction tradesman and school teacher. She started cranking out the kids as soon as they were married. From what I remember of their conversations, they and their families got by in the 30's but there were no luxuries. I believe the agricultural-based regions such as Iowa were able to survive, even if they didn't exactly prosper in those years. My father made a career out of the Army and my mother was a full-time homemaker. They never got back to Iowa except to visit.
Um, you mean your dad dove right in and got cranking as soon as they were married....

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