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Old 11-26-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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Nazis where looking for Aryans. Just because such person was really white ,blonde hair ,blue eyes, pale skin don't make them Aryans.

But how could they even tell the deference back than they had no DNA test if they where Aryans?

This girl is really white but can be any where in Europe

http://img.allw.mn/content/makeup/20...arm-colors.jpg

http://www.prettygirlsblog.net/2015/01/15/fYU7L0v.jpg

Russians don't stand out from any other white people in Europe.

http://specials-images.forbesimg.com...kground=000000

http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...uristani_5.jpg
But that's what makes them even more dangerous))))
Can you imagine, you adopt a little Russian, who looks like you, talks like you, but at the tender age of seven starts already pushing the Communist ideas?)))

See? Right there, in your face -

"For these nations, the Sclaveni and the Antae, are not ruled by one man, but they have lived from of old under a democracy, and consequently everything which involves their welfare, whether for good or for ill, is referred to the people. It is also true that in all other matters, practically speaking, these two barbarian peoples have had from ancient times the same institutions and customs. For they believe that one god, the maker of lightning, is alone lord of all things, and they sacrifice to him cattle and all other victims."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs


Not only that, they kept those Communist habits all the way through Tzarist times, where their peasants lived as the "communes" or "Mir"
And that's in the midst of advances of the Western world with all its "individualism," "personal responsibility" and the rest))))
So what do you do? Of course Slavs are dangerous, and Russians most of all))))
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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Yes, modern Germans are a mixture of Germanic tribes (many of them didn't originate from Scandinavia but were native to Northern Germany), Celts, Romans, Slavs and other minor tribes like the Nordwestblock cultures.
The term "Germany/Germania" dates back to Caesar who ignored the fact that there were also non-germanic tribes living east of the Rhine. shanv3 shouldn't assume a continuation from germanic tribes straight to Bismarck.
Oh great, now we have one more "unidentified group of people" to deal with)))
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Old 11-26-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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Nazis called them sub human base on the wikipedia page and where not considered Aryans.

I wonder if some of it was because of political reasons the Slavs, Russians and Poles supporting communism.

One reason he hated all Yugoslavs, except the Croations, who allied themselves with Nazis, was that they slaughtered Nazi Soldiers at every opportunity. There where sections in Yugoslavia that he had to bypass, because they could not make headway. The local residents would kill them as they slept, cutting the throats of many, and let the rest live to find their comrades in the morning dead. Hitler called them Barbarians and wild animals. He even ordered the execution of 10 civilians for every German Soldier killed by these people, but that did not stop them either. The Nazis even went into Schools and took out Children executing them because they ran out of adults to kill. They hated these people. Guess he didn't think that they would fight, after the Governments fell so fast, but he should have realized that these people fought War after War among them selves, and where well adapted to conflicts and killing. Heard a lot of History from family Participants. Have family that participated in every conflict in Yugoslavia from Kosovo, and the Ottoman Wars, to modern day . Interesting History, very violent. They where never "Slaves."
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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The Nazis implemented a Supremacy Ideology mostly to boost moral, a nation can lose many things it can never lose its pride. They didn't take it all that seriously. Romania and Hungary became Nazi allies despite not being "Aryan".China and Nazi Germany had great relations before 1937, Hitler turned around and supported Japan as a buffer against the Soviet Union. There were numerous non-Aryan members of the German Army towards the end of the war.

As the old saying goes, there are never real friends just interests.
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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One reason he hated all Yugoslavs, except the Croations, who allied themselves with Nazis, was that they slaughtered Nazi Soldiers at every opportunity. There where sections in Yugoslavia that he had to bypass, because they could not make headway. The local residents would kill them as they slept, cutting the throats of many, and let the rest live to find their comrades in the morning dead. Hitler called them Barbarians and wild animals. He even ordered the execution of 10 civilians for every German Soldier killed by these people, but that did not stop them either. The Nazis even went into Schools and took out Children executing them because they ran out of adults to kill. They hated these people. Guess he didn't think that they would fight, after the Governments fell so fast, but he should have realized that these people fought War after War among them selves, and where well adapted to conflicts and killing. Heard a lot of History from family Participants. Have family that participated in every conflict in Yugoslavia from Kosovo, and the Ottoman Wars, to modern day . Interesting History, very violent. They where never "Slaves."
So if they support Nazis and not communism than the Nazis would have not hated them?
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:35 PM
 
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The Slavs have a long history of being used by others, starting with the Romans who conquered them and used them as as slaves. Slav comes from the Latin word for slave. Hitler just continued the concept seeing them as vastly inferior.
I believe both are root Magyar, which is Finno-Urgiac or Altaic.
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Old 11-28-2015, 04:33 AM
 
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If the nazis would've won, they would've been quite in a tickle anyway, as all their allies were of 'lesser races'. The issue with the Japanese and Finns were settled by being 'promoted' to honorary aryans, and the Croatians were labeled 'Goths' and not Slavs at all. Italy would've been labeled something like Langobard Romans or something, but what to do with Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Spain?

An equally tricky situation was that the Germans defeated many of the supposedly 'master race': Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands and Flanders. Not much racial superiority there.
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:53 AM
 
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If the nazis would've won, they would've been quite in a tickle anyway, as all their allies were of 'lesser races'. The issue with the Japanese and Finns were settled by being 'promoted' to honorary aryans, and the Croatians were labeled 'Goths' and not Slavs at all. Italy would've been labeled something like Langobard Romans or something, but what to do with Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Spain?

An equally tricky situation was that the Germans defeated many of the supposedly 'master race': Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands and Flanders. Not much racial superiority there.
It is interesting the Nazis would take Japan and much of other Asian people over white people like Slavs,Romanian and other Mediterranean people.

The Nazis would of killed most of the white race to get a Aryans race thinking most of the white race is not Aryans but inferior.

Yet side with Japan and much of other Asian people over white people.

Very strange.
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:17 AM
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Most people assume that the hatred came first and then the subjugation (or the attempt). It was the other way around.

Hitler saw that Russia and US, what with their enormous resource filled territories were going to be the powerhouses of the world. The only way Germans could hope to keep up (and here I believe that he was deluded enough to think it was his duty) was to increase their territory with lands that were productive and resource rich. It was a last ditch effort to make Germany a true world power.

Making the inhabitants of these areas 'subhuman' by way of propaganda (which the Nazis were the absolute masters of) was necessary to enlist the support of the regular german population. He saw what we, the Americans, had done (Manifest Destiny) including making them appear as subhuman and he approximated it as much as was possible.

Obviously being in Europe and dealing with populations of different (more educated, etc) people presented a slew of different roadblocks to this plan than those our ancestors (Americans) faced settling the west.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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If the nazis would've won, they would've been quite in a tickle anyway, as all their allies were of 'lesser races'. The issue with the Japanese and Finns were settled by being 'promoted' to honorary aryans, and the Croatians were labeled 'Goths' and not Slavs at all. Italy would've been labeled something like Langobard Romans or something, but what to do with Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Spain?
They'd "sort out" those "inconveniences" with time. The man idea was to "clear" Russian land and then to proceed with implementation of racial plan. Because there was definitely a plan of "redesigning" and changing the genetics, if not to say downright "creating a new race," replacing the Russians all together.
You might find this read interesting in the context of the discussed subject;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

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An equally tricky situation was that the Germans defeated many of the supposedly 'master race': Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands and Flanders. Not much racial superiority there.
They defeated them only because these people didn't understand their own "good" - what's good for them. I'm sure Hitler had plans for them, judging by what's described in previous wiki article.
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