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Old 08-06-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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I was just wandering around the web and was watching the Edinbourgh Tattoo (pretty strange of me in and of itself) when I thought, "the Brits being the oldest continuous state must have the oldest military unit."

The answer, the Coldstream Guard in service to her Majesty's government since 1650! Pretty amazing.

http://www.google.com/search?q=colds...itle&resnum=15
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Braddock was a Coldstream Guard and they erected the monument over his grave. Well they think it's his grave, hard to tell as he was buried in the middle of the road during the retreat.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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You can't win them all when you start in the 17th Century.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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You can't win them all when you start in the 17th Century.
Actually I think Braddock did as well as could be expected it being so early in the game for regulars in the back country. He had flankers and a vanguard out and was taking precautions. The big problem was that unlike the French the Brits hadn't yet developed proper tactics for the situation but they soon afterwards did.

And it seems the French and Indians (mostly down from the Great Lakes) were very well led on a small unit level and immediately took advantage of the situation.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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Actually I think Braddock did as well as could be expected it being so early in the game for regulars in the back country. He had flankers and a vanguard out and was taking precautions. The big problem was that unlike the French the Brits hadn't yet developed proper tactics for the situation but they soon afterwards did.

And it seems the French and Indians (mostly down from the Great Lakes) were very well led on a small unit level and immediately took advantage of the situation.
Hey, I'm not the one who made the innuendo.

Question, I still can't figure out, although I've read it several times, why the Grenadier Guard has precedence over the Coldstream.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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Discounting the Papal Swiss Guard, formed in 1506, as a military unit?
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Discounting the Papal Swiss Guard, formed in 1506, as a military unit?
Yeah, I was just thinking that myself. And the Papal Guard has been in some very desperate combat.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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Where did the name Coldstream come from? Was that the name of some royal castle in England?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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Discounting the Papal Swiss Guard, formed in 1506, as a military unit?
No, but they have been disbanded on at least two occasions so their existence as a unit has not been continuous.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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Where did the name Coldstream come from? Was that the name of some royal castle in England?
The name is derived from the village of Coldstream where they began their first campaign, marching from the village to London in support of the Restoration of the monarchy.
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