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Old 02-09-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Think you are getting me wrong. I am talking about the concept of separate but equal. I can see nothing wrong with that.

Example. If a black person goes into a black restaurant and gets served the same brand of coffee as those in a white restaurant I don't see anything wrong with that.

For a while the black police in London were going to form their own police Union. I don't know if it ever happened but the point is they were wanting to be separate from the existing Union.
If you live in a free society, what is the justification for separation?
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Roman Catholic schools as far as I am aware are 'separate but equal 'and no fuss is raised about it. I don't know what effect this has on the minds of the young children in their schools but they seem to do well in the education stakes. Many of them are lawyers,politicians etc

When I was at school we got 'hand me down ' books which usually had backing of wallpaper on them to make them last longer.This was done by the people who had used them before or if they were showing signs of wear got a new covering from those receiving them. There was no library in the school I went to, but I believe there was in the Grammar Schools.
No, no, no, no, no.

We had a Catholic school in my home town. You didn't have to be Catholic to go to it. And taxes were not used to support the private school

Separate but equal applied to schools funded by public taxes.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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No, no, no, no, no.

We had a Catholic school in my home town. You didn't have to be Catholic to go to it. And taxes were not used to support the private school

Separate but equal applied to schools funded by public taxes.
Different then. Catholic schools and Irish language schools here are funded by the government. Yes you could go to it but I believe Catholic beliefs and teachings were paramount. That is why they exist and don't come under government control

My belief as already stated is that separate but equal ( if it was carried out as it should be) has nothing wrong with it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Think you are getting me wrong. I am talking about the concept of separate but equal. I can see nothing wrong with that.

Example. If a black person goes into a black restaurant and gets served the same brand of coffee as those in a white restaurant I don't see anything wrong with that.

For a while the black police in London were going to form their own police Union. I don't know if it ever happened but the point is they were wanting to be separate from the existing Union.
As mentioned above I wasn't sure about the black police Union. I did a search and found this.

National Black Police Association | National Black police Association
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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That's no excuse. Going back to Reconstruction is irrelevant. Even that later voting rules prevented some poor Whites from voting is no excuse/
So we don't go back to slavery either then? There was slavery though out the world before it arrived in America. In all cases it was wrong but to listen to some it would seem that slavery in America was the only place it happened.

Some slaves in America were well treated and in some cases better off than the wage slaves in the north. However, it was the fact of owning a person (as you would a table or a chair) which was wrong.

I believe there were some black people who owned slaves. Is this true?
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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I believe there were some black people who owned slaves. Is this true?
yes
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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yes
Thanks for your answer. I thought so but wasn't sure.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The pics are haunting, indeed!

Moms grew up in rural, NE North Carolina. (Martin County, to be exact) Her and my uncle, she was a little girl, him a young adult, were offered 25 cents per pound to pick peanuts. They both 'picked more peanuts than the law allowed', and had an excessive amount of dirt on them. After giving him more than the finished product, the 'farmer' reduced the offer to 15 cents per pound. My uncle told him, in response, "take those peanuts and shove it up your........!" Telling a white man, "shove it....." back then normally meant two results: get hung or go to New York! Moms and uncle both headed up north!

A college schoolmate of mine had a grandmother who died when her mother was 12. Needed an emergency appendectomy. The white hospital was right there, but "No Colored Allowed". The black hospital was about 15-20 miles away. DOA!

My moms, to this day, wants to stay in Brooklyn, and not relocate 'Down South'. My schoolmate's mother, I believe, is in her 80s, still here.

These stories, and pics, are real, and people still have memories.
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Think you are getting me wrong. I am talking about the concept of separate but equal. I can see nothing wrong with that.

Example. If a black person goes into a black restaurant and gets served the same brand of coffee as those in a white restaurant I don't see anything wrong with that.
I think you should have stopped with "I'm an outsider so not au fait with American history." Educate yourself on the history of segregation in America and then get back to us.
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Roman Catholic schools as far as I am aware are 'separate but equal 'and no fuss is raised about it.
You do realize that attendance at Roman Catholic schools is voluntary, right?
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