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Old 02-19-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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Has there ever been a President[ial candidate] that has ever been filmed as much as Trump?
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Looking back on Presidential scandals Id think theres a lot more to worry about than a sweary word... being brash or uncouth.... jeez have a look back on the scandals..
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:04 AM
 
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I think that a distinction can be drawn between public and private behavior.
I think Id rather see the man upfront shall we say than behind closed doors...surely the private man would be the real one..
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Old 02-21-2016, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Candidate behavior doesn't always translate into presidential behavior.
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Old 02-21-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I'm probably going way out on a limb with this, but if you were a principal, interviewing prospective teachers, it may have been better not to spell manner as manor.
Unless, and I don't think it is, surely not, that we in the U.K. spell it manner, and over there you spell it manor.
Over here a manor is a very large house, also, in London, it can be slang for the area that you live in.
Your rite, eye mised dat won.

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Old 02-22-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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One of the great scandals of US presidential history involved candidate, in 1884, Grover Cleveland's (allegedly) fathering a child out of wedlock ... often referred to as "Ma Ma where's my Pa???" Even though the biological father of the child might have been Cleveland's law partner Folsom, Grover took full responsibility and had been paying child support for some time. The child's mother herself was unsure of the paternity of the boy and named him Oscar Folsom Cleveland. You see Folsom was a married man and Cleveland was a bachelor. Because of his gallantry, Grover turned the scandal to his favor!
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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I think Id rather see the man upfront shall we say than behind closed doors...surely the private man would be the real one..
I earnestly believe that such a belief is one of the most hypocritical aspects of modern life. The media is hell bent on exposing every wart and pimple of celebrities and public officials and the populous devours every salacious detail while at the same time we are quite naturally guarded about our own. We don't as a matter of course keep do our best to hide our own foibles from our children, family, peers and employers, and this is how it should be; the very nature of relationships require it. So why do we demand such unlimited transparency of others?

I often wonder how the essential business of government could have been accomplished under the withering spotlight that we demand today. I wonder for example of how WWII could have been prosecuted under constant speculation regarding Roosevelt's health, Eisenhower's affair with Kay Summersby or even the plans for the D-Day invasion itself had the media been as hell bent exercise of "the publics right to know" which in reality would be better described as the "press' right to tell."

Of course there is nothing new about the salaciousness about the presses insistence of telling all. Jefferson's liaisons, the questions about Jackson's marital status, or Grant's drinking were constant fodder for the media of their day, but it doesn't seem that the public was nearly insistent upon the flawless nature of national figures as we are today.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:34 AM
 
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Years ago all the scandals were carefully hidden from the public now its out there and we all know.. and we should do... if a man is dishonourable with his friends, his wife and family then he wont stop at being dishonourable with the public once hes in office... Cheating men and presidents are just that cheats..
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:40 AM
 
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Bill Clinton.
not forgetting the daddy of them all Kennedy... and his brothers
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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if a man is dishonourable with his friends, his wife and family then he wont stop at being dishonourable with the public once hes in office... Cheating men and presidents are just that cheats..
Well since this is the history forum and not Religions & Spirituality, your argument is historical nonsense. In fact even it was the Religion & Spirituality forum it would be nonsense because both history and the religious texts are replete with imperfect men whose personal failings did not prevent them from acting in a righteous manner. By your standard there are few if any men or women in human history, much less American history who could be held to the standard that you've just put forth.
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