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Old 02-17-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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By many accounts, Donald Trump is brash, vulgar, and uncouth. Has there ever been a President with these attributes?
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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By many accounts, Donald Trump is brash, vulgar, and uncouth. Has there ever been a President with these attributes?

LBJ, Nixon, Truman, Taylor to name 4. JFK would be a close runner-up.
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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I do not believe Trump is President.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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LBJ, Nixon, Truman, Taylor to name 4. JFK would be a close runner-up.
I think that a distinction can be drawn between public and private behavior.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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I think that a distinction can be drawn between public and private behavior.
Yes.

In the case of Nixon, that's why the Watergate tapes were shocking for their tone - it was completely at odds with Nixon in public. Apparently, his own family was astonished at how he spoke on them. He could be angry, but the vulgarity and overt racism and antisemitism was never shown publicly.

And anyone who has ever heard or read LBJ ordering pants knows that for as rough as he could be in public, he was downright coarse in private.
American RadioWorks - The President Calling

As an aside, the thought of any recent President doing something so mundane as ordering pants is impossible to even imagine, at least to me.

Also, it's worth remembering that we know so much about modern Presidents, and we have such an intimate look at them, that this skews our perception towards them. The further back we go in history, the less information there is and it becomes difficult to peer much at all into how they might have behaved in private conversations.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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By many accounts, Donald Trump is brash, vulgar, and uncouth. Has there ever been a President with these attributes?
hahahaha where do we start....
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I think that a distinction can be drawn between public and private behavior.
Yes, that's what I was thinking, as well.

I don't care that LBJ could be very vulgar. He acted satisfactorily as President.
I don't care that Nelson Rockefeller was having an affair when he died. He acted satisfactorily as Governor and mostly as Vice President.

But I remember when I was a principal and would be doing interviews for teacher openings. If a candidate came in as a slob, either in dress or manor, all I could think was -- if this is how he comes to an interview to impress, then what the heck will he be like when he actually has the security of the job. No thanks.

Same for Trump. Even without his policies, no thanks.
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Old 02-19-2016, 03:41 PM
 
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I remember reading about a President who was notorious for using curse words while in office. I want to say Truman, but I'm not sure.
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: London U.K.
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Yes, that's what I was thinking, as well.

I don't care that LBJ could be very vulgar. He acted satisfactorily as President.
I don't care that Nelson Rockefeller was having an affair when he died. He acted satisfactorily as Governor and mostly as Vice President.

But I remember when I was a principal and would be doing interviews for teacher openings. If a candidate came in as a slob, either in dress or manor, all I could think was -- if this is how he comes to an interview to impress, then what the heck will he be like when he actually has the security of the job. No thanks.

Same for Trump. Even without his policies, no thanks.

I'm probably going way out on a limb with this, but if you were a principal, interviewing prospective teachers, it may have been better not to spell manner as manor.
Unless, and I don't think it is, surely not, that we in the U.K. spell it manner, and over there you spell it manor.
Over here a manor is a very large house, also, in London, it can be slang for the area that you live in.
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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I remember reading about a President who was notorious for using curse words while in office. I want to say Truman, but I'm not sure.
Truman was certainly know from employing a well place curse word into his private and public speech.

"I didn't fire him because he was a dumb son of a *****, although he was, but that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail."
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