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Let's not forget who armed Japan in the first place!
The U.S., IMO, with its unending fear/hatred of Communism, secretly wanted capitalistic Japan to overtake China, so let's point those missiles in the right direction!
Let's not forget who armed Japan in the first place!
The U.S., IMO, with its unending fear/hatred of Communism, secretly wanted capitalistic Japan to overtake China, so let's point those missiles in the right direction!
At one time, there were 6 imperialist powers eager to carve up China: Britain, Russia, France, Japan, Germany and the U.S., and they came close to accomplishing that. And can you blame China for turning to Mao and Communism?
The U.S. would have resorted to any measure to stop China from embracing Communism, as they did in so many other countries in the world.
Japan overtaking China! Well, anything is better than Communism, right?
The U.S. would have resorted to any measure to stop China from embracing Communism, as they did in so many other countries in the world.
Except we didn't...along the lines of your theory, why didn't we just simply intervene in the Chinese civil war and toss Mao out? It was certainly within the ability of our military at the time.
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Japan overtaking China! Well, anything is better than Communism, right?
If that was the goal, then why did we disarm Japan and tie its hands in terms of engaging in war?
At one time, there were 6 imperialist powers eager to carve up China: Britain, Russia, France, Japan, Germany and the U.S., and they came close to accomplishing that. And can you blame China for turning to Mao and Communism?
The U.S. would have resorted to any measure to stop China from embracing Communism, as they did in so many other countries in the world.
Japan overtaking China! Well, anything is better than Communism, right?
I think you've heard of the Nine Power Treaty?
And I'm not privy to Mao's motivations. I do know the US wasn't actually worried about Communism in China in the '30s.
The simple answer is...they couldn't invade if they wanted to. China's navy is "green water"...
Brown water navy = only able to operate in rivers and coastal areas.
Green water navy = only able to operate in the nations own littoral areas, but has ships capable of regional ocean going.
Blue water navy = capable of operating anywhere.
China does not have the sea lift capability and logistics to enable an invasion of Taiwan, let alone the Japanese home islands. They are building up to blue water capability, but at this point cannot even support ships being away from their home waters, let alone support a seaborne invasion consisting of millions of troops. The Japanese defense forces would destroy them before they even landed.
The simple answer is...they couldn't invade if they wanted to. China's navy is "green water"...
Brown water navy = only able to operate in rivers and coastal areas.
Green water navy = only able to operate in the nations own littoral areas, but has ships capable of regional ocean going.
Blue water navy = capable of operating anywhere.
China does not have the sea lift capability and logistics to enable an invasion of Taiwan, let alone the Japanese home islands. They are building up to blue water capability, but at this point cannot even support ships being away from their home waters, let alone support a seaborne invasion consisting of millions of troops. The Japanese defense forces would destroy them before they even landed.
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Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133
Yeh but Japan is not that far.
You might want to look at a map.
It's over 500 miles from the Chinese coast to Kyushu, the nearest of the four main Japanese islands to China.
Then you might want to have a look at Chinese amphibious capability. It exists, but its very limited. In such a case, 500 miles might as well be 5000 miles. And then you might want to have a look at the air power of the two countries. China has the numbers (though not by all that much) but Japan has the quality. And Japan wouldn't be fighting at the end of a 500-mile logistical tether.
Short of pulling out the nukes (which would be even more ludicrous than this hypothetical already is), China couldn't pull off a successful invasion of Japan.
And that's not even taking into account that the rest of the world - ie, the United States - isn't going to sit idly by while this happens.
It's over 500 miles from the Chinese coast to Kyushu, the nearest of the four main Japanese islands to China.
Then you might want to have a look at Chinese amphibious capability. It exists, but its very limited. In such a case, 500 miles might as well be 5000 miles. And then you might want to have a look at the air power of the two countries. China has the numbers (though not by all that much) but Japan has the quality. And Japan wouldn't be fighting at the end of a 500-mile logistical tether.
Short of pulling out the nukes (which would be even more ludicrous than this hypothetical already is), China couldn't pull off a successful invasion of Japan.
And that's not even taking into account that the rest of the world - ie, the United States - isn't going to sit idly by while this happens.
Yet, Japan is able to invade China those decades ago? It is not like Japan is somewhere in the South Pacific. It is not that far in terms of military projection.
There have been plenty of examples of US and the rest of the world sitting back. It happens in the Mideast all the time. Russia - Ukraine, Yugoslavia for the most part, much of Africa, and a whole slew of examples.
I am not saying China will invade, but if they dont, it is not because of distance. I may be fear of everyone else, but distance really should not be an issue.
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