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This response makes no sense, in fact none of your responses have made any sense. You seem to be in your own private debate and I shall leave that to you.
LMAO...this is the history forum, not Bible study. I know what the book says and what the general interpretation of the section is. There are a lot of sections about God since the worship of God was an integral part of the community. However, such communal life as described in the passages I quoted are exactly that...a description of the ideal of Christian communal life.
Regardless, God has no place in the discussion of economic theory to begin with.
LOL, all of a sudden he's like "actually, forget the Bible, it has nothing to do with economics" after he tried to bring up the Bible to support socialism/Communism.
LOL, all of a sudden he's like "actually, forget the Bible, it has nothing to do with economics" after he tried to bring up the Bible to support socialism/Communism.
Well, I actually just used some very well known quotes to support GS's argument that the Bible argues for a communal society. An argument which you dismissed out of hand as "an invention of liberals". I provided the passages and anyone can go ask a priest and they will tell you that it is framed as the ideal of a Christian society/commune. Despite my raging liberalism, I was very much raised in the Christian faith.
With that said, the Bible really doesn't have anything to do with economics. The entire side argument over the Bible was merely to address the OP's statement that Capitalism = Jesus and Communism = Satan. Anyone who has ever spent a minute in church knows that's a ridiculous analogy.
Now, if you want to actually debate economic theory, I'm all for it, but you've already demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the basic terms and definitions. So, there isn't much to talk about.
"Pure" capitalism is unattainable, due to human nature and the desire for security, but those conditions are approached via the natural outcome of human interaction; Attempts to approach "pure" communism (Marx' promised "withering away of the state") invariably rely upon the concentration of power, and as Acton observed over a century ago "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Enough said!
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Again...proves that you do not even know what theoretical communism is.
Generalize much? Ponder these...
Acts 2:44-45
And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need.
Acts 4:32
And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.
Acts 4:34-36
For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles' feet, and they would be distributed to each as any had need.
You missed this one:
Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need.
The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little.” --1 Corinthians 8
I guess the title explains most of it, but it amazes me there are people that still think that not only was the downfall of the USSR a bad thing but there is actually anything about the satan-inspired communism that was good.
Now I will admit capitalism may not be near perfect but does anyone truly believe if they had to choose between a world where communism dominates everything and a world where capitalism dominates everything they would choose the communist world? To anyone who isn't mentally challenged it's as simple as asking who would you rather hang out with, Jesus, or Satan?
It all started when the schools banned the Bible and God. Bring up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he won't depart from it. This only works if the child is brought up right. They have been taught to go along with things and think they are not capable of doing for themselves. Government has taken the place of God in their lives. They will get upset with you if you say anything negative about the bad things the government is doing.
It all started when the schools banned the Bible and God. Bring up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he won't depart from it. This only works if the child is brought up right.
What all started? Communism? Communism started 'way before then.
Any Christian parent who claims "It all started when the schools banned the Bible and God" is a lousy Christian parent. They have far more time to be bringing up their children "in the way they should go" than a 20 second rote recitation of the Lord's Prayer is going to do.
Interestingly enough--and instructively for Christian parents--the very child that Supreme Court decision was fought over, the very child whose atheist mother did not want to hear prayer in school, later became a Christian himself...anyway.
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