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Old 11-30-2016, 10:00 PM
 
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Another irregular episode in the JFK case was very much overlooked by the media: In 2013 former French president Valery Giscard D'Estaing revealed that American president Gerald Ford admitted to him privately in 1976 that JFK was killed as the result of a plot. Ford said the Warren Commission knew it was a plot, but did not find out who was behind it.

Why D'Estaing would lie about this, or make it up, seems far fetched to me judging by the man's career. It's another troubling episode in a troubling case.
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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Another irregular episode in the JFK case was very much overlooked by the media: In 2013 former French president Valery Giscard D'Estaing revealed that American president Gerald Ford admitted to him privately in 1976 that JFK was killed as the result of a plot. Ford said the Warren Commission knew it was a plot, but did not find out who was behind it.

Why D'Estaing would lie about this, or make it up, seems far fetched to me judging by the man's career. It's another troubling episode in a troubling case.
Yes, and of course, Gerald Ford was a member of the Warren Commission cover-up. It's pretty generally known that it was a plot but it seems like no one really dares to come out and say it in front of the American public. We saw how easily our country can be taken over when some do not agree. In that case, no one really wants to come right out and say it, probably because there could still be repercussions. Some type of danger. Eventually everyone single person who had any degree of involvement will be dead. People who still cared will also be dead. Probably by then, the papers that are secret now, will be released but by then few will even care anymore. Whether we liked him or now, it's frightening how a government can be overtaken right from under our noses!
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:54 AM
 
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I never lost much sleep over JFK early death. He gave the green light to kill President Diem and that doomed South Vietnam and some 55,000 Americans.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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This looks like an interesting read: New JFK assassination theory: Cuban double agent led plot | New York Post
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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This topic comes up regularly in the history forum.

It would help if some people kept the boundary between fact and speculation more clear than they do.

There is no proof that there was any conspiracy at all that killed JFK. There is no proof that LBJ, the mafia, Cuba, Russia, the FBI, or the CIA were part of any such alleged conspiracy. There are theories that do this and they are unproven and almost certainly false.

I can get up here and say "The moon is made of green cheese" and that is no less established than any of these supposed conspiracies.

Books by Mark Lane or other conspiracy theorists are not historical texts. They are books that speculate about the assassination and often play fast and loose with the facts to support their theories.

What I am reading here is not history. I personally would prefer all the conspiracy theorists get either a separate forum or sub-forum to discuss all this unproven nonsense.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm old enough to remember Nov 22, 1963 very well.

It's very amusing to see the crackpot conspiracy theories still breathing all these years later.

Paranoia, the destroyer...
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:48 AM
 
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What about this theory.
American security and intelligence systems were a mess, CIA was a mess, FBI was a mess.
Some people plotted the killing and as everything was a mess, nobody really knows who dit it.
Just as 11/11. Just as Pearl Harbour. Just as Bay of Pigs, Iran, etc.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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I'm old enough to remember Nov 22, 1963 very well.

It's very amusing to see the crackpot conspiracy theories still breathing all these years later.

Paranoia, the destroyer...
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Legions of people who question the Warren Commission report despite never having actually read it.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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Legions of people who question the Warren Commission report despite never having actually read it.
Indeed.

Occam's Razor.

Conspiracy theories are generally the logical equivalent of a Rube Goldberg machine. Reality is almost invariably more mundane.

Hoffa is dead, not living in secret retirement in the South Pacific with Elvis (also dead). O.J. actually did it. And so did the loser who worked in the book depository, to whom all the evidence points, murdered a President.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I would love to read everyone's thoughts.
The best overall theory on HOW the assassination came to pass...
is the theme of a recent Stephen Hunter novel (yes, Swagger is in it).

If you're interested in the topic and haven't read this book... do so.
The Third Bullet


The Third Bullet (Bob Lee Swagger, #8) by Stephen Hunter
a book review by Dick Lochte: The Third Bullet: A Bob Lee Swagger Novel

https://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...=.de9385641813


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7bkmOaSJOk
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