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I'm just addressing how many times today we hear this argument about how those of who are not Native AMERICAN have no right to say anything about the way this country functions...I just pointed out how flawed that way of thinking is and why it's ridiculous. No offense meant, seriously.
The entire Continent was named after a European (Amerigo Vespucci), and there is good reason for that.
It's funny that "Native AMERICANS" refer to themselves as such.
FWIW... I live in a NM community near several pueblo communities and the preferred term here is "Indian" when talking about themselves. "Native American" seems to have an accepted and slightly different connotation by degree as if an umbrella or a cultural term. Original languages are spoken here so maybe there is a slight difference that doesn't translate well into English. Maybe it is different elsewhere but when I moved here I was informed politely that the term was "Indian".
I'm just addressing how many times today we hear this argument about how those of who are not Native AMERICAN have no right to say anything about the way this country functions...I just pointed out how flawed that way of thinking is and why it's ridiculous. No offense meant, seriously.
The entire Continent was named after a European (Amerigo Vespucci), and there is good reason for that.
Was the good reason because he was lost? . I have never heard anyone say you white people have no right to say, do, or worship, whatever,.. That is usually the domain of the white man, to tell people where they can live, or who they cannot marry, etc.
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Originally Posted by SunGrins
FWIW... I live in a NM community near several pueblo communities and the preferred term here is "Indian" when talking about themselves. "Native American" seems to have an accepted and slightly different connotation by degree as if an umbrella or a cultural term. Original languages are spoken here so maybe there is a slight difference that doesn't translate well into English. Maybe it is different elsewhere but when I moved here I was informed politely that the term was "Indian".
Ah-Ho, SunGrins. Only a white man like KKeeth would say we call ourselves Native American. We identify ourselves to each other by our tribe. And many by their clan when we are gathered amongst our own people.
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It's funny that "Native AMERICANS" refer to themselves as such. Strange...because they are by definition naming themselves after a white European man (Amerigo Vespucci). In fact the country and entire continent (North AMERICA) are named after a white European...and probably for just reason.
With all due respect, Native AMERICAN people hadn't even had a written language or a functioning wheel in whatever culture they may have had prior to Europeans showing up.
Seriously, what roads were paved, railroads made, cars engineered and manufactured, or planes flown or dams erected until Europeans showed up? Who knows...Native Americans may still to this day be living like modern day African Pygmies had Europeans not shown up.
Your respectful ethnocentrism is duly noted! BTW, we are not as short as African Pygmies, but thanks for sharing your opinions nonetheless!
City Data prefers the english language. Do you want to hear some more Kiowa? Haitcheya!!
After living where I've lived and the countries I've been to, the more I know about people the better person I become. I ask questions about customs, life styles, etc. because I'm interested.
I'm just addressing how many times today we hear this argument about how those of who are not Native AMERICAN have no right to say anything about the way this country functions...I just pointed out how flawed that way of thinking is and why it's ridiculous. No offense meant, seriously.
The entire Continent was named after a European (Amerigo Vespucci), and there is good reason for that.
Hilarious, given that you were the one saying in another thread that recent immigrants shouldn't have the same right to jobs and whatnot as a native-born Merkan.
By that criteria, the folks with the mostest rights are the ones whose ancestors got here first. That would not be you. That was YOUR idea, LOL!
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I'm not sure I'd say there's a good reason for naming both continents after Amerigo Vespucci. Unless, of course, we are ready to change the USA to the USV: the United States of Vespuccia. Then the Indians could be Native Vespuccians. Bet that would go over big!
England is named after the Angles - to the exclusion of the Celts, the Romans, the Saxons, the Jutes, the Frisians, the Danes, the Normans, and others.
The Carolinas, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland and Virginia are named after anti-democratic monarchs who never set in the western hemisphere.
Do those who profess to have a problem with the term 'Native American' ostensibly on the basis of its etymological origins care one iota about the incongruity of those names? Of course not. It's a classic example of someone reaching for a rationalization of some petty grievance they have other something that's nothing, because to state the petty grievance - in this case, something about Native Americans - would sound... well... petty.
The past didnt do them much for a thriving, lasting existence, but having casino's with tax free status seems to be working out very well.
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. I have never heard anyone say you white people have no right to say, do, or worship, whatever,.. That is usually the domain of the white man, to tell people where they can live, or who they cannot marry, etc.
We identify ourselves to each other by our tribe. And many by their clan when we are gathered amongst our own people.
