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Old 11-08-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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How about Custer being a hero? He was an idiot.
The "Custer being a hero" isn't really common anymore, pretty much 1940's Erroll Flynn and changed by the time of the 70s to fit changing social norms (i.e. the movie "Little Big Man"). It's actually being swung to much in the opposite direction - with him changing from hero to villain, egomaniac, and bumbling fool and him pretty much being the scapegoat for all the "sins of the white man" that occurred over the centuries. The truth, as usual, lies somewhere in the middle.
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I read it in wiki:
Now the years are rolling by me—
They are rockin' evenly.
I am older than I once was,
And younger than I'll be.
That's not unusual;
No, it isn't strange:
After changes upon changes
We are more or less the same;
After changes we are more or less the same.


I wonder why he left it out of the studio version?
I suspect he wrote in after the studio version came out. The studio version had to have been written in 1969 and the album "Live Rhymin'" on which it was recorded was released in 1972, maybe a year earlier or later. The verse replaced a long instrumental break so it had nothing to do with air-playing the song.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Fat is bad for you.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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Fat is bad for you.
How so?
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: SC
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Just about ALL history that we were taught in government indoctrination camps a/k/a public schools and government authorized indoctrination camps a/k/a private schools were and are lies. The best way to verify this is to DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.



Much authentic history can be gleaned from actual documents executed by our ancestors that are kept hidden from the masses at places like Yale University Law School. Yale of course also happens to be where "Skull and Bones" is located. It is of course the secret society many American Presidents and legislators belonged to who went to Yale . Most of us can't even fathom the role secret societies have played in history which only a few brave researcher/historians have dared to write about such as Eustace Mullins, in his book Curse of Canaan: A Demonology of History. http://www.colchestercollection.com/...-of-canaan.pdf



Mullins was a protege of Ezra Pound along with Ernest Hemingway and Mullins wrote the first book ever written exposing the Federal Reserve Bank (which is a private bank) called Secrets of the Federal Reserve which was published in the 1950s and 10,000 copies were burned. A few of his books are available on Amazon.com and many more are available free at PDF-archive.info. Sadly G. Edward Griffin who based his book on Mullins work seems to enjoy the credit for exposing the Federal Reserve when it was Mullins who did all the research and paid the price having been followed by the FBI for decades and survived multiple attempts on his life.



Anyway, here is a link to one of the contracts and agreements which we are never told about you can find at the Avalon Collection at the Yale University Law School archives. It suggests that even after we "won" the Revolutionary War we were still slaves (and still are) slaves to Britain due to a ginormous debt Ben Franklin agreed the colonists, (probably unbeknownst to them), would pay off. Look at this: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fr-1782.asp



Another GIANT lie we've all been taught to believe was true is explained by Lysander Spooner, an attorney and expert on the constitution who lived in the 1800s. His book NO TREASON: The Constitution of No Authority in section 4 of his book or about 13 minutes into the 2 hour video, he exposes the inconvenient truth about the constitution and as a result, our entire government. I won't say what it says. Do check it out for yourself. This is ultra mind blowing too. You can listen to a reading of the short book ( 55 pages long) on YouTube



For proof that our understanding of Ancient History may be wrong, there are many ruins that may not be authentic and/or where moved and rebuilt so they would fit into the propaganda the powers that should not be want us to believe. Make SURE to watch the YouTube videos "When the survivors of Atlantis Wake Up" They will BLOW YOUR MIND. I haven't finished watching all of them yet but I plan to. There is evidence that even an accurate accounting of the amount of time that has passed is even grossly inaccurate because of how language and writing changed over the years and began being misinterpreted.



I think we all need to be open to possibilities that what we may have previously thought was true could very well not be when new evidence about that subject presents itself. Voltaire said " The most certain barrier to the truth is the believe you already have it."
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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Just about ALL history that we were taught in government indoctrination camps a/k/a public schools and government authorized indoctrination camps a/k/a private schools were and are lies. The best way to verify this is to DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.



Much authentic history can be gleaned from actual documents executed by our ancestors that are kept hidden from the masses at places like Yale University Law School. Yale of course also happens to be where "Skull and Bones" is located. It is of course the secret society many American Presidents and legislators belonged to who went to Yale . Most of us can't even fathom the role secret societies have played in history which only a few brave researcher/historians have dared to write about such as Eustace Mullins, in his book Curse of Canaan: A Demonology of History. http://www.colchestercollection.com/...-of-canaan.pdf



Mullins was a protege of Ezra Pound along with Ernest Hemingway and Mullins wrote the first book ever written exposing the Federal Reserve Bank (which is a private bank) called Secrets of the Federal Reserve which was published in the 1950s and 10,000 copies were burned. A few of his books are available on Amazon.com and many more are available free at PDF-archive.info. Sadly G. Edward Griffin who based his book on Mullins work seems to enjoy the credit for exposing the Federal Reserve when it was Mullins who did all the research and paid the price having been followed by the FBI for decades and survived multiple attempts on his life.



Anyway, here is a link to one of the contracts and agreements which we are never told about you can find at the Avalon Collection at the Yale University Law School archives. It suggests that even after we "won" the Revolutionary War we were still slaves (and still are) slaves to Britain due to a ginormous debt Ben Franklin agreed the colonists, (probably unbeknownst to them), would pay off. Look at this: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fr-1782.asp



Another GIANT lie we've all been taught to believe was true is explained by Lysander Spooner, an attorney and expert on the constitution who lived in the 1800s. His book NO TREASON: The Constitution of No Authority in section 4 of his book or about 13 minutes into the 2 hour video, he exposes the inconvenient truth about the constitution and as a result, our entire government. I won't say what it says. Do check it out for yourself. This is ultra mind blowing too. You can listen to a reading of the short book ( 55 pages long) on YouTube



For proof that our understanding of Ancient History may be wrong, there are many ruins that may not be authentic and/or where moved and rebuilt so they would fit into the propaganda the powers that should not be want us to believe. Make SURE to watch the YouTube videos "When the survivors of Atlantis Wake Up" They will BLOW YOUR MIND. I haven't finished watching all of them yet but I plan to. There is evidence that even an accurate accounting of the amount of time that has passed is even grossly inaccurate because of how language and writing changed over the years and began being misinterpreted.



I think we all need to be open to possibilities that what we may have previously thought was true could very well not be when new evidence about that subject presents itself. Voltaire said " The most certain barrier to the truth is the believe you already have it."
From Wikipedia:
Eustace Clarence Mullins Jr. (March 9, 1923 – February 2, 2010)[1] was an antisemitic American writer, propagandist,[2] Holocaust denier, and disciple of the poet Ezra Pound.[3] His best-known book is The Secrets of The Federal Reserve, in which he alleged that several high-profile bankers had conspired to write the Federal Reserve Act for their own nefarious purposes, and then induced Congress to enact it into law. David Randall called Mullins "one of the world's leading conspiracy theorists."[4] The Southern Poverty Law Center described him as "a one-man organization of hate".[5]

Sounds like quite a scholar.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: SC
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Eustace Clarence Mullins Jr. (March 9, 1923 – February 2, 2010)[1] was an antisemitic American writer, propagandist,[2] Holocaust denier, and disciple of the poet Ezra Pound.[3] His best-known book is The Secrets of The Federal Reserve, in which he alleged that several high-profile bankers had conspired to write the Federal Reserve Act for their own nefarious purposes, and then induced Congress to enact it into law. David Randall called Mullins "one of the world's leading conspiracy theorists."[4] The Southern Poverty Law Center described him as "a one-man organization of hate".[5]

Sounds like quite a scholar.

Of course. it is much more "scholarly" to simply bash a historian based on others unfounded criticisms without even reading any of his work before forming your own decision about him. Never do anything as radical is think for yourself after looking at PRIMARY SOURCES. Instead base all your opinions on Wikipedia.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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The "Custer being a hero" isn't really common anymore, pretty much 1940's Erroll Flynn and changed by the time of the 70s to fit changing social norms (i.e. the movie "Little Big Man"). It's actually being swung to much in the opposite direction - with him changing from hero to villain, egomaniac, and bumbling fool and him pretty much being the scapegoat for all the "sins of the white man" that occurred over the centuries. The truth, as usual, lies somewhere in the middle.
Agree. Custer was actually an extremely competent cavalry commander during the Civil War, and contrary to popular legend, did not use headlong attacks as his only tactics.

His demise at the Little Bighorn was a consequence of what must have seemed reasonable at the time. The history of the Great Plains Indian wars was one of serial frustration, the cavalry being unable to catch the Indians , who being nomadic in the first place, were hard to find. Custer's major worry going into that fight was that they would slip away before they could be attacked. Custer's major shortcoming was a failure to grasp just how large a band of fighters he was facing, so large that rather than running, they were able to stand, fight, and wipe out Custer's section of the 7th.

Custer was sometimes very lucky, the last time he was fatally unlucky. He was never a idiot or a fool, any more than he was ever a great hero as an Indian fighter.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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Of course. it is much more "scholarly" to simply bash a historian based on others unfounded criticisms without even reading any of his work before forming your own decision about him. Never do anything as radical is think for yourself after looking at PRIMARY SOURCES. Instead base all your opinions on Wikipedia.
Unfounded Criticisms? Let's look at the book description of Mr. Mullins's The Secret Holocaust:

While the Jews claim to have been "exterminated" and "gassed" in WWII. What massacres have they committed against Christians throughout the centuries? Explained are some of history's worst, REAL holocausts.

Sounds like antisemitism and Holocaust denial to me. Sure he has his opinions, but so does every one of the seven billion people on earth. What makes him so special? Because you think his conspiracy theories are correct?
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Old 11-15-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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It sounds like they're not really skeptics of the holocaust. By claiming the Jews did similar deeds historically to non-Jews, they are shifting the blame for an event that they claim never happened. It's not a valid defense to attribute a crime to the victim.
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