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Old 11-19-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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I saw the term Scots-Irish sometimes, maybe it's more appropriate. I wouldn't necessarily called them Scottish because they were also some from northern England who moved to Northern Ireland, then America and they were considered as Scotch-Irish. T.
There is no such nationality as "Scotch", it refers to whiskey.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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Any American of colonial stock who thinks he is purely Scotch-Irish--and that is the historically correct term--is kidding himself. That ethnicity has not existed since the 1700's. It would probably be impossible to trace back the family tree of any white southern descendant of British American colonists to before the Revolution without finding ancestors who had come from Northern Ireland, or to find one person who had no ancestors other than Scotch-Irish. The most that can be said is that they were more numerous in some areas than others, and even that difference is usually exaggerated.

The only sensible ethnic classification for such people is "American", and the census now permits this.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Movin' on Up
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The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.
The Scots-Irish were rabidly Patriotic, while Scottish lowlanders and highlanders tended to be loyalists. So much so that many moved to Canada/British North America after the revolution.
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Maybe this website has more information in that regard, probably.

Scotch-Irish are not my words and there are those who may or may not take offense to the usage, after all...as we all know, Scotch is a whiskey, and yet it seems the terminology is something that was/is used only in America, apparently.

The Scotch-Irish - The Melting Pot: The ethnic group that blended

It has already been observed that no other immigrants were so patriotically unanimous in support of the American cause as the Scotch-Irish. One group of patriotic settlers in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, drew up a set of resolutions on May 20, 1775, declaring the people of that county free and independent of the British Crown. This predominantly Scotch-Irish assemblage thus anticipated by more than a year the Declaration of Independence. The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.

https://www.americanheritage.com/scotch-irish
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The Scots-Irish were rabidly Patriotic, while Scottish lowlanders and highlanders tended to be loyalists. So much so that many moved to Canada/British North America after the revolution.
Thank you TheseGoTo11
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Old 11-29-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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May have posted this before but just in case. It seems they didn't like Irish being used in their name.



"...Ulster began to send out swarms to America; shipload after shipload of men trained to labor and habits of independence, sought the American shores; year after year the tide rolled on without once ebbing; and many thousands of these descendants of the emigrants from Scotland, disdaining to be called Irish, filled the upper country of Pennsylvania, Virginia and the Carolinas. Ulster, in Ireland, has been an exhaustless hive, a perennial spring..." Sketches of North Carolina by WH Foote 1846

'Moreover,it is interesting to note that they did not regard themselves as Irish. In fact,nothing infuriated them more than to be classed as Irish' ''Ulster Sails West''1943. by W.F.Marshall



''We are surprised to hear ourselves termed Irish people. It is hard in this new land to be identified with the very people to whom we have always been opposed''. It is a great pity the term used had not been Ulster/Ulster-Scots as it surely would have been more accurate and would have prevented the Irish and so-called Irish-Americans from claiming Ulster Scottish achievements in America to their own advantage. 'To Ulster's Credit' 1981 by Sam Allen



'Thus appears one of the first uses of the much-despised term ''Scotch-Irish.'' These people were not Irish and,after generations of sharing contempt for the 'mere' Irish and their ''papist''religion did not relish being associated with them' ''West From Shenandoah'' 2004.by Thomas A.Lewis


' mere' The Latin word merus means ' pure, unmixed, undiluted '. The Irish were known by the English as the 'mere Irish'

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Old 12-14-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Practicing for the Messiah with Ulster Scots words on BBC 2 Sunday 14/12/2019 Attached Thumbnails
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Old 12-25-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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Wi aa guid wushes fer a Blythe Yuletide tae aa oor freens an Ulster-Scotch kin at hame in Ulster an aa owre tha Yird.

With all good wishes for a Happy Christmas to all our friends and Ulster-Scots family at home in Ulster and around the world.
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:52 PM
 
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BORN FIGHTING PART 1 James Webb


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Old Today, 11:38 AM
 
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There were some who knew the background of those who sailed to America



‎Philip Robinson‎ to Friends of the Ulster-Scots Academy
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Americans have been calling the Ulster-Scots (in America) "SCOTCH-IRISH" since the early 19th century. But the term "ULSTER-SCOTCH" has also been used, even by President Teddy Roosevelt in his 1903 book on Oliver Cromwell, when referring to the people here in Ireland.

He was not alone, for in 1902 the Virginia historian Jos. Waddell always used the term in his "Annals of Augusta County, Virginia, 1726-1821", for example:

"In consequence of the oppressions suffered by the ULSTER SCOTCH, they again determined to seek religious liberty in the wilds of America. They built a ship, which they called Eaglewing, and on September, 9th, 1646, one hundred and forty of them, including several ministers, embarked for New England. They encountered heavy storms, and when near the banks of New Foundland concluded that it was not the Lord's will they should proceed. Therefore they turned back, and on the 3rd of March, came to anchor in Loch Fergus."
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