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Lee, Davis and the other central leaders including all those with a rank of Brigadier General and above, should have been tried for treason and if found guilty, hung.
Their treason should have been documented for the ages.
As to it being genocide and mass-murder, please. Spare me.
13,000 died in Andersonville prison alone.
OK good for you for your honesty, someone promoting the execution of thousands.
The deaths in Andersonville (I happened to visit the site years ago) were due from disease and malnutrition, not hanging. The officer responsible for running that camp, tried with war crimes after the war, was indeed hanged by the federal government. But what's that have to do with Lee? He didn't have anything to do with running that camp.
Regardless, the records show that about 25,000 to 30,000 confederate soldiers died in Union prison of war camps and about the same number of union prisoners died in confederate prisoner of war camps.
What do I need to "spare you" for exactly? You're lack of knowledge?
Martin Luther King Jr. was no saint either, but I don't see his statues being taken down, or street names being changed.
There’s no political will to do so as there is for taking down statues celebrating the rebellion. The erection of most rebel monuments was a political act as now removing them is. Fair is fair.
OK good for you for your honesty, someone promoting the execution of thousands.
The deaths in Andersonville (I happened to visit the site years ago) were due from disease and malnutrition, not hanging. The officer responsible for running that camp, tried with war crimes after the war, was indeed hanged by the federal government. But what's that have to do with Lee? He didn't have anything to do with running that camp.
Regardless, the records show that about 25,000 to 30,000 confederate soldiers died in Union prison of war camps and about the same number of union prisoners died in confederate prisoner of war camps.
What do I need to "spare you" for exactly? You're lack of knowledge?
Andersonville conditions were abysmal. Prisoners who lived looked like concentration camp survivors. They lived in horrible, cruel, overcrowded conditions.
There were no federal prisoner camps that came anywhere near the dreadful conditions of Andersonville. That was a war crime and the commander should have been hung.
Though more Confederates were captured and held prisoner, fewer died. None of the prisoners in northern camps died at near the rate of the deaths at Andersonville. About 12% of those in northern prison camps died. 29% of prisoners at Andersonville.
None of them on either side would have died if not for the Civil War.
So I am fine with executing the people who brought such misery on so many.
Do you deny that Robert E. Lee's men kidnapped several hundred free blacks while in Pennsylvania to sell for profit. Nearly every regiment of his has documentation that it happened, it is hard to imagine he didn't know it was happening. His silence on the matter permitted it.
Can you make a sincere and coherent argument that kidnapping free blacks wasn't controversial in 1863 America?
There is no excuse I can present for that except that it's part of that horrible chapter of our history called the institution of slavery.
However I can put it into context - slave would escape from the south and Virginia and head into Pennsalvania during the civil war, particularly after the Emancipation Proclamation. Or they would be liberated from enslavement when enemy territory was taken. Both sides referred to these slaves as "contraband", so right there you have both sides still considering them property and material, sad as it was. The union didn't really know what to do with them, they just knew it hurt the confederate war effort just like destroying supplies would hurt the confederate war effort. Many took to following union camps around and worked as laborers - building fortifications, etc.
I believe the invading Confederate troops intention was to re-capture the contraband (i.e. the run away slaves) with simply the same intent and ferver as they would capture supplies - food for the men, hay for the horses, wood to burn fuel. They would be returned to there owners. With that came any number of free black slaves although who knows what they would do with them.
Anyways to answer your question, let me put it this way - with both sides referring to these slaves as property/"contraband", and the abolisionist movement not even fully agreed in the north, it would have been no more controversial then the south taking food, supplies, horses, and other property from Pennsylvanian's. That is to say, most of the northern property owners were probably more concerned about losing there cow or food supply for the winter from raiding confederates and could care less about freed blacks. That's the reality of the time.
There’s no political will to do so as there is for taking down statues celebrating the rebellion. The erection of most rebel monuments was a political act as now removing them is. Fair is fair.
Not punishing Lee for being the traitor he obviously was allowed the myth about him and the whole South Shall Rise Again to flourish.
It is still tearing our nation apart hundred and fifty years later.
And for what?
No it's not.
That's ridiculous. You strut around calling this person and that person "traitors" and it is obvious that you do not know the subject matter.
No it's not.
That's ridiculous. You strut around calling this person and that person "traitors" and it is obvious that you do not know the subject matter.
What a bunch of baloney.
Levying war against the U.S. is the legal definition of treason. A person who commits treason is known by law as a traitor.
Levying war against the U.S. is the very definition of treason, per U.S. Code of Laws.
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
Martin Luther King Jr. was no saint either, but I don't see his statues being taken down, or street names being changed.
It's like people think that fighting for equality and civil rights is more honorable than treason in the name of enslavement.
Weird, huh?
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