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Why is it even brought up? Oh that's s right some people feel entitled to a free meal, or want people of another race to feel guilty for something they had absolutely nothing to do with.
Or some have completely forgotten their past, and feel smugly privileged to have pale skin; funny that it's these people who are convinced there's no problem at all.
hmmmm privileged? my family's past has zero to do with this country's history. So no I refuse to have what is known as white guilt.
Two children grow up, two different races, they play together fine until...... one is taught they should be given things because of how they were treated in the past. They were taught to not like people like the other child because their skin color is different and "those" people treated our ancestors badly.
Where is there forgiveness?
No one can move forward when someone else wants to dwell on the past.
Funny how other minority groups in this country are doing fine. Indians who come from a caste system, yet here they succeed, Asians, Ahhhh yes those "crazy rich Asians" How can that be?
Sorry, in this day and age anyone, anyone in this country can go to school, go to college, and make something of themselves. The only one stopping someone is themself.
phooey white privilege. Guess any white people working at a fast food joint must be "privileged".
quietude your a victim of so called social justice warriors.
I don’t think you comprehend slavery. If you don’t want to work for a company, you are free to start your own business or find a job elsewhere. A slave doesn’t have those choices.
This whole thread is kind of bogus. The vast majority of the wealth in the US was created in the industrial north that didn’t have slavery. Slavery was agricultural labor in the south and that didn’t scale well enough to create much wealth.
Read The half has never been told : slavery and the making of American capitalism / Edward E. Baptist, c2014, Basic Books.
Yes. Does he also address hemp? Hemp breaking was very labor intensive & all the sailing ships required lots of hemp rope.
I don't recall that hemp was mentioned in the book. Cotton seems to have been the crop that primed the pump for the economic & industrial rise of the US in world markets - especially for British linen.
The north had survived without slave labor for quite a few years by 1860, and had developed a much more mechanized/engine-driven industrial base. That's why the sudden loss of slavery in the south had little impact on them, while producing economic devastation in the south that lingers until the present day.
Yah. Another couple of books to review
The fall of the house of Dixie : the Civil War and the social revolution that transformed the South / Bruce C. Levine, 1949- , c2013, Random House, 973.713 LEVI 2013
Summary
In this major new history of the Civil War, Bruce Levine tells the riveting story of how that conflict upended the economic, political, and social life of the old South, utterly destroying the Confederacy and the society it represented and defended.
Length
xix, 439 pages,
An excellent look @ the impacts of the CW on Southern society - not just battles & generals.
Dominion of Memories: Jefferson, Madison, and the Decline of Virginia
by Susan Dunn
Dominion of Memories: Jefferson, Madison, and the Decline of Virginia. For decades, the Commonwealth of Virginia led the nation. The premier state in population, size, and wealth, it produced a galaxy of leaders: Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Mason, Marshall. Four of the first five presidents were Virginians. And yet by the middle of the nineteenth century, Virginia had become a byword for slavery, provincialism, and poverty. What happened? In her remarkable book, Dominion of Memories, historian Susan Dunn reveals the little known story of the decline of the Old Dominion. Whilethe North rapidly industrialized and democratized, Virginia's leaders turned their backs on the accelerating modern world. Spellbound by the myth of aristocratic, gracious plantation life, they waged an impossible battle against progress and time itself. In their last years, two of Virginia's greatest sons,Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, grappled vigorously with the Old Dominion's plight. But bound to the traditions of their native soil, they found themselves grievously torn by the competing claims of state and nation, slavery and equality, the agrarian vision and the promises of economic development and prosperity. This fresh and penetrating examination of Virginia's struggle to defend its sovereignty, traditions, and unique identity encapsulates, in the history of a single state, the struggle of an entire nation drifting inexorably toward Civil War. ...more
Hardcover, 320 pages
Published May 21st 2007 by Basic Books
Of course, but it was outlawed in most of the northern US States by the early 1800s. I think New Jersey was the last - 1804. Some of the original colonies outlawed it even before they gained there independence from Great Britain. It existed in the South because indeed of the agrarian society there. It was not beneficial where skilled labor was needed (in the north), but were manual labor was needed.
But this brings up the European influence and impact on slavery. The Europeans brought the slave trade to the Americas to exploit the riches of the New World, particularly the Spanish (many many more slaves were brought to the Caribbean and south america, where they died in droves and were simply replace by more slaves, that's after of course they tried to use Indians as slaves and they died even faster). It might be more appropriate to say the slavery enriched, not America, but Europe - Spain, Portugal, Britain, France, The Dutch who got filthy rich from the slave trade, which in turn kept the European powers of the 16th and 17th century fat and happy. It was left up to the US to extinguish this practice.
In the World? That was mainly the British, who outlawed the slave trade in a series of agreements & enforced it by force of arms. That was by early 1820, as I recall. The US Civil War outlawed slavery in the US, in 1865.
Perhaps you could demonstrate how it is maturely done.
I have, so have you, so have plenty of people on this forum. Then you get people linking a legitimate, if controversial, query to "neanderthal reparations".
We are all slaves with death by a thousand cuts being the current mantra.
That is a can of worms that they cannot open.
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