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Old 03-25-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The A-bomb would save no more lives than the 15,000 bombers, bombers which they already had. The Japanese never surrendered after the first drop of the A-bomb. It never impressed them that much, compared to massed bombers dropping napalm and incendiaries.
Because of how Japan developed - all the cities, infrastructure, power, ports, manufacturing - are on the coasts. The interior is too mountainous. & so fire was always a real danger - Japan housing tended to be light (wood & other combustibles - because of earthquakes, temblors), so that reconstruction was relatively fast. & housing was crowded together. But gas mains & electrical lines would go down too - causing massive fires.

Normally, Japanese fire brigades & private citizens would knock down fires quickly - but under war - shortages of POL, power, food & medical care - fire lanes weren't cleared, & people didn't have the energy to clear combustibles.
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Why in the world would the US use mass bombing when they had at their disposal an attack strategy that employed a single aircraft and a single bomb that could destroy an entire city. War is about inflicting maximum damage on the enemy while minimizing the attackers losses.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: London
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The A-Bomb was known to be devastating with lasting effects. What use something like that when you do not need to?
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Old 03-25-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The A-Bomb was known to be devastating with lasting effects. What use something like that when you do not need to?
And firebombing did not?
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Old 03-25-2019, 04:42 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The A-Bomb was known to be devastating with lasting effects. What use something like that when you do not need to?
The bombings in Japan were airbursts - minimizing uptake of soil & debris, & thus of contaminating material with more radioactivity. Were the results & effects of radioactivity known @ that point? The test bomb in New Mexico was essentially a ground burst, & so it would have kicked up more radioactive dust & debris than the bombs in Japan. But the interval between test & deployment was short - telescoped in order to get the bomb into action, I assume.

USAAF had technicians & observers all over the Japan bomb sites once we were on the ground there. It's an interesting question, I'll have to review.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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The A-Bomb was known to be devastating with lasting effects. What use something like that when you do not need to?
John,
I know you won't answer nor bother responding with anything that adds to the discussion. All you have to do is reread the entire string here and this has been addressed.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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Why in the world would the US use mass bombing when they had at their disposal an attack strategy that employed a single aircraft and a single bomb that could destroy an entire city. War is about inflicting maximum damage on the enemy while minimizing the attackers losses.
Not the mention the obvious: It Worked.

It worked brilliantly. Japan surrendered. The war ended. Less loss of life on both sides.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:53 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Why in the world would the US use mass bombing when they had at their disposal an attack strategy that employed a single aircraft and a single bomb that could destroy an entire city. War is about inflicting maximum damage on the enemy while minimizing the attackers losses.
Yah. Unlike Imperial Japan, the US put together a logistics chain to transport men, machines, food, ammo, POL & etc. across the Pacific & sustain operations there. @ the end of WWII in the PTO, that meant that B-29s & all their support, POL, bombs, aircrew, naval transport - everything was in place, materiel had been stockpiled in preparation for the planned bombardments ahead of the invasion of IJ.

For Curtis LeMay & other commanders, it was a matter of expend it or jettison most of it - only very valuable inventory would be returned to base. Some dual-purpose goods - rations, uniforms, civilian-grade POL, might be given to friendly nations - the Philippines, China, other allies - & some military gear was abandoned to the French, on their way to try to retake French Indochina (we also supplied them transport - from Africa &/or France).

The USAAF also wanted to establish their credentials as a strategic force for the future. So conventional bombing of IJ continued up to the end of the war.
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Old 03-26-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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The A-bomb would save no more lives than the 15,000 bombers, bombers which they already had. The Japanese never surrendered after the first drop of the A-bomb. It never impressed them that much, compared to massed bombers dropping napalm and incendiaries.
here are the odds of B-29 Crewmen living through the required 35 missions...…….

http://fortunearchive.com/6th_Bombar...nian/Risks.pdf
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: London
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And firebombing did not?
No radiation after effects.
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