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Old 02-20-2019, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Ive been reading about Capt. Bligh, and Fletcher Christian and it puts another slant on what might have really happen..... it seems they men were intoxicated by the women and sex on Tahiti including Fletcher Christian and it had nothing really to do with cruel orders from Captain Bligh who is seen more now as a god fearing man with scruples.who tried to steer the men away from what they had become..............In a way I cant blame the men after the dangerous sea journeys they took in their lives and this was like an ideal life with sun seas sand and sex.... why would they want to return to England...unless they had families and wanted to return. seems many didnt want to.... but when they moved to Pitcairn all wasnt as rosie as they had hoped , they had taken some of the women with them but used the men from the island as slaves...causing them to turn on the mutineers or so its said.....Most died or were killed.. no one really knows what happened to Fletcher Christian some say murdered at age 28 some say he committed suicide.. others claim he made his way secretly back to England. no proof however.. but he did marry a chiefs daughter and had a family.. and has many descendants scattered over the world....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletch...n#Naval_Career
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:41 AM
 
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Bligh has long been recognized by many boaters, as well as historians, as a brilliant man who was better than most Captains of the time.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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Bligh has long been recognized by many boaters, as well as historians, as a brilliant man who was better than most Captains of the time.
No doubt he was. The man must have been a brilliant navigator and sailor to make his way back.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Long or long-ish stays in exotic Ports of Call weren't uncommon. I don't think the men were drunk on exotic Island Women.

I also don't think Bligh was an uncommonly cruel man, arguably he was less a disciplanarian in the traditional Royal Navy sense than his contemporaries.

Obviously, his seamanship and navigation skills were similarly top notch.

None of that means that he was worth a tinkers dam as a Captain and Leader. Accusing his second in command of theft and cutting the entire ships rations and rum for some missing coconuts demonstrates this. His failure in Australia showed that the first failure in leadership wasn't bad luck.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Sailors and Marines in exotic ports of call. Timeless.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Ive been reading about Capt. Bligh, and Fletcher Christian and it puts another slant on what might have really happen..... it seems they men were intoxicated by the women and sex on Tahiti including Fletcher Christian and it had nothing really to do with cruel orders from Captain Bligh who is seen more now as a god fearing man with scruples.who tried to steer the men away from what they had become..............In a way I cant blame the men after the dangerous sea journeys they took in their lives and this was like an ideal life with sun seas sand and sex.... why would they want to return to England...unless they had families and wanted to return. seems many didnt want to.... but when they moved to Pitcairn all wasnt as rosie as they had hoped , they had taken some of the women with them but used the men from the island as slaves...causing them to turn on the mutineers or so its said.....Most died or were killed.. no one really knows what happened to Fletcher Christian some say murdered at age 28 some say he committed suicide.. others claim he made his way secretly back to England. no proof however.. but he did marry a chiefs daughter and had a family.. and has many descendants scattered over the world....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletch...n#Naval_Career
The saddest part of the story is what Hollywood did to the story.
That's why I am very careful about watching depictions of actual events. Most people do not realize that the story was real.


BTW: The cargo was "Breadfruit plants". The idea was that they could bring breadfruit back to The West Indies and raise it for the slaves to eat. It never worked out; the slaves hated the stuff and would not eat it. They found it mealy and bland.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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The saddest part of the story is what Hollywood did to the story.
That's why I am very careful about watching depictions of actual events. Most people do not realize that the story was real.


BTW: The cargo was "Breadfruit plants". The idea was that they could bring breadfruit back to The West Indies and raise it for the slaves to eat. It never worked out; the slaves hated the stuff and would not eat it. They found it mealy and bland.

Yes it was for the slaves, but cant see them being fussy or complaining can you.............https://www.tourmaui.com/breadfruit/
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