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Old 04-14-2019, 01:21 AM
 
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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New York was the home of many loyalists during the Revolution, white and black. Those who survived the war were resettled in England, Canada and other British colonies and compensated (a bit) by the British Crown, without any legislative action. The King footed the Bill. This was true of all Loyalists in the Colonies who "wanted to get out of town".
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Old 09-18-2022, 04:48 PM
 
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Facts.
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Old 09-18-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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Here is something interesting that happened in New York that few people know about.

During the American Revolution, New York City was under British occupation. Prince William (later King William IV), the teenage son of King George III, joined the Royal Navy at age 13 and was stationed in New York City, one of the RN major ports at the time. Thus, Prince William was one of first members of the British Royal Family to visit North America.

The Americans found out that the Prince tended to walk around town alone or usually only unescorted by an elderly admiral and began to plot to kidnap the boy. But the Americans could not figure out a plan to kidnap him safely (could you imagine what would have happened if the Prince was harmed?) and the British eventually found out about the plot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV#Early_life

William served in New York during the American War of Independence, making him the only member of the British royal family to visit America up to and through the American Revolution. While William was in America, George Washington approved a plot to kidnap him, writing:

"The spirit of enterprise so conspicuous in your plan for surprising in their quarters and bringing off the Prince William Henry and Admiral Digby merits applause; and you have my authority to make the attempt in any manner, and at such a time, as your judgment may direct. I am fully persuaded, that it is unnecessary to caution you against offering insult or indignity to the persons of the Prince or Admiral..."[9]

The plot did not come to fruition; the British heard of it and assigned guards to William, who had until then walked around New York unescorted.[10] In September 1781, William held court at the Manhattan home of Governor Robertson. In attendance were Mayor David Mathews, Admiral Digby, and General Delancey.
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Old 09-18-2022, 07:04 PM
 
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I am sure most people assumed there was slavery there, and much of the land was farms. That is kind of how all large cities started out.

They start out small, and had yet to annex most of the surrounding land that makes up the city now. Most of the out skirts of cities were likely farms that supplied the markets within the cities. Queens actually still has a museum/farm right near the Nassau County Border. Its run by the state or city. Its open to tourists.

https://www.queensfarm.org/

And yeh I am sure Boston, and Philly had slave markets. Rome used to be a big slave city. Sicily too.
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Old 09-18-2022, 07:06 PM
 
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Here is something interesting that happened in New York that few people know about.

During the American Revolution, New York City was under British occupation. Prince William (later King William IV), the teenage son of King George III, joined the Royal Navy at age 13 and was stationed in New York City, one of the RN major ports at the time. Thus, Prince William was one of first members of the British Royal Family to visit North America.

The Americans found out that the Prince tended to walk around town alone or usually only unescorted by an elderly admiral and began to plot to kidnap the boy. But the Americans could not figure out a plan to kidnap him safely (could you imagine what would have happened if the Prince was harmed?) and the British eventually found out about the plot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV#Early_life

William served in New York during the American War of Independence, making him the only member of the British royal family to visit America up to and through the American Revolution. While William was in America, George Washington approved a plot to kidnap him, writing:

"The spirit of enterprise so conspicuous in your plan for surprising in their quarters and bringing off the Prince William Henry and Admiral Digby merits applause; and you have my authority to make the attempt in any manner, and at such a time, as your judgment may direct. I am fully persuaded, that it is unnecessary to caution you against offering insult or indignity to the persons of the Prince or Admiral..."[9]

The plot did not come to fruition; the British heard of it and assigned guards to William, who had until then walked around New York unescorted.[10] In September 1781, William held court at the Manhattan home of Governor Robertson. In attendance were Mayor David Mathews, Admiral Digby, and General Delancey.
Wait as a boy? I know back then little boys were on ships, but he was a Prince. Why they not wait till he a little older, bigger, and stronger before putting him to harms way?
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Old 09-18-2022, 08:28 PM
 
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Wait as a boy? I know back then little boys were on ships, but he was a Prince. Why they not wait till he a little older, bigger, and stronger before putting him to harms way?
Yeah, 13 years old. But that was actually pretty common back then. The Royal Navy (and maybe the American Navy as well?) actually used to have positions that was created for boys. The idea was to train them early. If I remember right, too many kids got killed in WW1 ship battles so the practice ended, I forget exactly.

William was the third son so it was not expected he would be king. I agree with you though, it is strange that they put him in harms way since he was only in early teens and was still a close heir to the throne. George (late George IV) was the oldest brother and I believe Prince of Wales, the second son was Frederick, he joined the army.

William became king in 1830 after his father and then his two older brothers died. And after William died in 1837, the crown went to his niece - Victoria.
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Old 09-18-2022, 08:30 PM
 
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:16 PM
 
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Another fact not widely appreciated is that during the Civil War New York was actually a hotbed of Confederate sympathy. There was a major anti-draft riot there that was partly driven by it.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Another fact not widely appreciated is that during the Civil War New York was actually a hotbed of Confederate sympathy. There was a major anti-draft riot there that was partly driven by it.
Yeah, I think that is the reason the navy is firing on New York City (or as they call it "the mob") in the movie "Gangs of New York". The Irish in particular, many of them recent immigrants, were afraid that Blacks were going to come to take their jobs.
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