Why have the Vikings focus so much on England (European, economic, events)
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Even later in time, this Scandinavian dynasty was following the same "aquatic" concept, when establishing and expanding the principality of Moscow ( the predecessor of today's Russia,) along the available waterways in the area.
Anyway Vikings were not people or nation. Viking is a word for pirate, or freebooter from old norse. People all around the Baltic and the North Sea went ‘a viking’ to fill out their income from farming, fishing, and trading with some welcome loot and slave trade
Anyway the Vikings entered the East Slavic lands as mercenaries, sure they have likely have established trading stations in Russia. Even so: The Vikings benefited from a trade route stretching from Baghdad to the arctic Finno-Ugrians fur-collectors, including Scandinavian trade centres, as well as, the wealthy Constantinople.
Even though there were likely Scandinavian Vikings in Russia, no remains of Old Norse place names, or vocabulary traceable to the Old Norse language, survive in Russia or Ukraine. As opposite to England or Scotland, where place names and vocabulary from the Norse settlers are abundant.
It seems the Vikings’ presence was, somehow, limited to a small ruling/warrior/trader class, and swiftly assimilated by the overwhelmingly major Slav population. https://historytotallynaked.com/2019...ussia-ukraine/
England and Ireland were the low-hanging fruit. The Danes went to England, the Norwegians to the Orkneys and Ireland. No one knows what Rollo (Normandy) was, although both Danish and Norwegian descent was claimed for him.
In terms of history from Purchas to James Prichard, I have not come across anything to suggest that the Rus were/are not the products of Saqaliba ethnos & Byzantine religious orientation.
A fellow student of Blumenbach like Prichard, by the name of Neuwid, did mention the presence of Russians in early 19th century U.S. but that doesn't make them a major factor in the founding of the United States.
Not denying that Varaganians were present but from my studies this only relates to the city state of Kiev & their trade routes; not so much with Muscovy nor the forest & swamp White Russian farmers & foragers.
Even the Nordicists of the early 2oth century did not claim to verify & authenticate the claim that the Slavs wanted a Teutonic dominant class over them.
Though admittedly one was initially imported by Peter in the late 18th century, and onwards from then despite the attempts at Russification.
One also should not forget the part the neo-nazi (as well as zionist) movement had in the dissolution of the Soviet sphere from the late 1980s-1990s.
Anyway Vikings were not people or nation. Viking is a word for pirate, or freebooter from old norse. People all around the Baltic and the North Sea went ‘a viking’ to fill out their income from farming, fishing, and trading with some welcome loot and slave trade
Anyway the Vikings entered the East Slavic lands as mercenaries, sure they have likely have established trading stations in Russia. Even so: The Vikings benefited from a trade route stretching from Baghdad to the arctic Finno-Ugrians fur-collectors, including Scandinavian trade centres, as well as, the wealthy Constantinople.
Even though there were likely Scandinavian Vikings in Russia, no remains of Old Norse place names, or vocabulary traceable to the Old Norse language, survive in Russia or Ukraine.As opposite to England or Scotland, where place names and vocabulary from the Norse settlers are abundant.
It seems the Vikings’ presence was, somehow, limited to a small ruling/warrior/trader class, and swiftly assimilated by the overwhelmingly major Slav population. https://historytotallynaked.com/2019...ussia-ukraine/
Except for that English is a Germanic language and goes all the way back to the Old Norse, so you can recognize the words of the Old Norse in it much easier.
But in Russian for example the *typical Russian names* such as Oleg or Igor become unrecognizable.
And so is the Russian "Varyag" with the letter "Я" in it becomes unrecognizable comparably to the original "Waräger."
So god knows what else there is in Russian language.
In terms of history from Purchas to James Prichard, I have not come across anything to suggest that the Rus were/are not the products of Saqaliba ethnos & Byzantine religious orientation.
A fellow student of Blumenbach like Prichard, by the name of Neuwid, did mention the presence of Russians in early 19th century U.S. but that doesn't make them a major factor in the founding of the United States.
Not denying that Varaganians were not present but from my studies this only relates to the city state of Kiev & their trade routes; not so much with Muscovy nor the forest & swamp White Russian farmers & foragers.
Do you understand the part, where the "Muscovy" ( which was originally part of the "Kievan Rus") was later developed, reinforced and expanded by the sons and grand-sons of the same dynasty that ruled Kiev?
Or do I need to go over it again?
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Even the Nordicists of the early 2oth century did not claim to verify & authenticate the claim that the Slavs wanted a Teutonic dominant class over them.
*Sigh*
No, the Russians ( once they became a nation) clearly didn't want a "TEUTONIC dominant class" over them when they could help it, as the history proves us. However "the Teutons" - that's already a later historic period.
The VIKINGS however (the Scandinavians, the "Varangians" as they were known over there) were invited as the organizers and warriors/protectors ( if to believe the "Primary Chronicle".)
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Though admittedly one was initially imported by Peter in the late 18th century, and onwards from then despite the attempts at Russification.
When Peter became the next tzar of Russia at the age of 10, he already grew up spending most of his time in the "German Quarters" of Muscovy. (It was his personal choice.)
That means there were already plenty of Westerners living in Moscow, ( since the 1500ies,) mostly from the Protestant countries. They were either the POWs or they came to serve as officers in the Russian army, and some Protestants came to take the refuge from the prosecution of the Catholic church.
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One also should not forget the part the neo-nazi (as well as zionist) movement had in the dissolution of the Soviet sphere from the late 1980s-1990s.
Except for that English is a Germanic language and goes all the way back to the Old Norse, so you can recognize the words of the Old Norse in it much easier.
But in Russian for example the *typical Russian names* such as Oleg or Igor become unrecognizable.
And so is the Russian "Varyag" with the letter "Я" in it becomes unrecognizable comparably to the original "Waräger."
So god knows what else there is in Russian language.
Yeah just by looking at the Names of the early Ruriks it’s clear they are of Norse origin.
Rurik = Hrorik
Oleg = Helgi
Igor = Ingvar
Olga = Helga
Do you understand the part, where the "Muscovy" ( which was originally part of the "Kievan Rus") was later developed, reinforced and expanded by the sons and grand-sons of the same dynasty that ruled Kiev?
Or do I need to go over it again?
*Sigh*
No, the Russians ( once they became a nation) clearly didn't want a "TEUTONIC dominant class" over them when they could help it, as the history proves us. However "the Teutons" - that's already a later historic period.
The VIKINGS however (the Scandinavians, the "Varangians" as they were known over there) were invited as the organizers and warriors/protectors ( if to believe the "Primary Chronicle".)
When Peter became the next tzar of Russia at the age of 10, he already grew up spending most of his time in the "German Quarters" of Muscovy. (It was his personal choice.)
That means there were already plenty of Westerners living in Moscow, ( since the 1500ies,) mostly from the Protestant countries. They were either the POWs or they came to serve as officers in the Russian army, and some Protestants came to take the refuge from the prosecution of the Catholic church.
Huh?
Like I said, from sources from Purchas to Prichard, I have yet to come across linking the trio of Rus nationalities to Varangians or other Teutonics other than possibly the city-state of Kiev.
Those most obsessed about ethnogenesis like Iberians during the Inquistion, Gobineau all the way to Hitler & his teutonic socialists, none of them especially the later saw the Saqaliba as part of the Aryan/Nordic/teutonic people.
Didn't the Stalinists, before the 2nd Great War, release a film about Alex waging a war against the Swedish & other teutonic knights?
Didn't the Stalinists, before the 2nd Great War, release a film about Alex waging a war against the Swedish & other teutonic knights?
What do the Stalinists have to do with the Vikings?
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