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Oh who cares. When it comes to Russia, as you've said earlier - "pay and repent, pay and repent." Pay and repent in front of the "mighty West" (and those who joined it, or so they think.)
That's what it is all about for people like W.P.
And they are utterly frustrated when it's STILL not happening.
Because ( according to THEIR understanding) it was supposed already to happen yesterday... no, the day before yesterday, and may be like two weeks before.
Meanwhile, to add to their frustration - here it goes..
And since it's a History forum, not "Politics" one, I'd advise these people to look deeper back in history. They might get their answers right there.
I'll fight the temptation to send them to "Religion" section or theology in general, because this would shatter their belief that Russia is the source of all evil in the world even more)))
I do not care that much about Russia. So I am not frustrated at all. If those people want to be ripped of by their corrupt government, and live under their potential then let them be. I do not think also that Russia is the source of all evil in this world. You on the other hand seem to think that west is the cause of all evil and is the cause of failure of Russia, so I advice you to check your history and learn that the only one that Russia can blame for its underdevelopment and poverty is itself and its mentality. So own up and take responsibility for something instead of blaming west all the time for all your failures.
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I do not give stuff about Russia. So I am not frustrated at all. If those people want to be ripped of by their corrupt government, and live under their potential then let them be. I do not think also that Russia is the source of all evil in this world.
Your posts are indicating quite the opposite.
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You on the other hand seem to think that west is the cause of all evil and is the cause of failure of Russia, so I advice you to check your historyand learn that the only one that Russia can blame for its underdevelopment and poverty is itself and its mentality. So own up and take responsibility for something instead of blaming west all the time for all your failures.
I did.
And so should you. (You might find this helpful, in order to get rid of the regular cliches, that you are so full of.)
As for the "West is the cause of all evil" - that's not what I believe.
I believe that "the West" made a lethal mistake when it comes to Russia by the end of the last century, and there is a hell of a price to pay now for this mistake.
As for the "West is the cause of all evil" - that's not what I believe.
I believe that "the West" made a lethal mistake when it comes to Russia by the end of the last century, and there is a hell of a price to pay now.
I do not. Russians are very hospitable and nice people and I like them. But the fact that they blame west for everything is what I hate also in polish mentality, which also blames Russia and Germany for all of their failures instead of taking any responsibility for their state of being.
I do not. Russians are very hospitable and nice people and I like them. But the fact that they blame west for everything
Not for "everything," but for the predatory practice, and they are right about it.
That's on one hand, on another hand - this predatory practice helped Russians to "toughen up."
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what I hate also in polish mentality, which also blames Russia and Germany for all of their failures instead of taking any responsibility for their state of being.
"Geography determines destiny" - remember that, and look at Poland's location on the map.
While Polish ppl. can't blame Russia or Germany for ALL their failures, their complaints are mostly justified, since being sandwiched between those two is NOT a good place to be.
Not for "everything," but for the predatory practice, and they are right about it.
That's on one hand, on another hand - this predatory practice helped Russians to "toughen up."
"Geography determines destiny" - remember that, and look at Poland's location on the map.
While Polish ppl. can't blame Russia or Germany for ALL their failures, their complaints are mostly justified, since being sandwiched between those two is NOT a good place to be.
And I understand why polish people can feel that way, but I still do not approve that. I am practical person that thinks about future and hate self-pitying and not romantic like most poles or russians.
Nowadays, just as in the Czarist and Communist era, a good portion of the young people want to leave. The upshot of this cannot be good. One of the largest countries of the world, in terms of land mass, continues to sink into the abyss.
Does anyone see any hope for any of this to change?[/quote]
Actually, the greatest physicists, writers, and thinkers whose work created scientific advancements, literary works, and effected our way of life were Russians. Russia is rebounding from the fall of communism and soviet style central planning. Russian schools and universities still exist. Some students educated in Russia are leaving the country for greener fields, but many stay.
My words are demagogy? I think yours are considering that you were trying to present stanard of living in Russia as better than many of those in west by using some overall gdp rankings but not gdp per capita rankings or human development index or curruption index which any of those would prove you wrong. Do you really believe someone will believe that standard of living in India for average person is better than standard of lving in Japan or Germany according to your reasoning? Noone will believe such thing.
Let's first determine what you mean by the standard of living?
A wonderful answer found on the Internet, about emigration to the West, which is 100% hits the mark.
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About "53% of young Russians" who want to leave the country and hysteria flared up around this. Although this is quite natural: the generation of “respect for work” (70s), the generation of “risking an ass for money” (80s) and the generation of “oil companies tearing at galleys” (90s) gave way to the generation “I want iPhone, Tesla and in Miami". 99% of people who allegedly want to leave have never been abroad, never studied and did not work. And this very "majority" represents "abroad", like a certain "Disneyland during the Christmas sale, where the good people bring you parents". Everyone thinks that they will be taken to Google, Apple or, at worst, to the bank to the Rothschilds. They will meet with vodka, button accordion and a gypsy choir. But first you just try to get a work visa!
Ukrainians and Georgians were given the opportunity to "look at the wonders of the EU", but were not given the opportunity to work there.
The generation of "freebies" wants to leave without seeing where and without applying absolutely no work to it. The best thing is to give them the opportunity to leave to see how they return six months after washing the toilets, delivering pizza and working at McDonald's. It would be a wonderful school of life.
For one more or less successful Russian citizen who left for the West with a paid mortgage, children in a private school, a summer house in Spain and a couple of good cars, there are hundreds that are hard worked for less money than those that would take into account price parity and taxes and transportation costs, would easily earn in Russia.
It makes sense to go to the West if you are Lisa Peskova (daughter of Putin's speaker) and dad bought you an apartment in Paris, study at the Sorbonne and an internship at the Council of Europe. And you absolutely do not care what you will eat tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, a year later and retired.
It makes sense to go to the West if you know three languages, won half a dozen Olympiads and have invitations with the promise of scholarships from five universities. It even makes sense to go to the West if you are a cool masseur - and really a master of his work and with health, like Przhevalsky’s horse. And, of course, the escort will accept everyone. But the competition is hellish. And it’s also necessary to be able to suck correctly. The rest of the "obese West" is not needed.
Here, 27% of young British people also want to permanently leave England because it is very expensive and you can live two thousand in Thailand much better than 7 thousand in London. But these people are well aware of what work abroad is, they have, as a rule, a convertible education, or at least they can teach English. And Britain does not make any tragedy out of this: far from all are so successful that they can earn an apartment in London for their lives. These are the realities.
Let's first determine what you mean by the standard of living?
Standard of living: the degree of wealth and material comfort available to a person or community.
Quality of life: the standard of health, comfort, and happiness experienced by an individual or group.
I think that is what W.P is referring too, and I mostly agree with him(?). Russia no doubt is a relatively wealthy and productive nation as a collective, but once you take into account the number of people there, then on a per person based, it is objectively a bit underwhelming. Granted per capital measurements are a bit crude and don’t take into account wealth inequality, cost of living, disposable income etc. but generally it’s a simple yet effective way to compare countries.
That being said (ppp) is a more accurate measurement of the actual wealth than nominal since not every buys and sells in dollars. So here is GDP (ppp) per capita, in other words gdp/population or how efficient the economy is, according to the IMF for 2018.
So compared to the developing world Russia is ranked pretty high, but to Europe it’s about at the same level of Greece, not exactly the most prosperous country out there.
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So 146 million people are no good because ....
