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Old 03-09-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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It was also on the coast. It had a harbor and geographically, it was closer to the shipping route from Europe. Why did immigrants end up going to New York instead of Boston?
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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It was also on the coast. It had a harbor and geographically, it was closer to the shipping route from Europe. Why did immigrants end up going to New York instead of Boston?
Didn't many Irish immigrants settle in Boston?
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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Because NY was an immigration port and Bawstun wasn't. Immigrants, especially steerage class, couldn't just disembark anywhere. Ellis Island was, from 1880 to 1920 or so, the only immigrant processing center in the Northeast.

(Simplified; immigrants could come in elsewhere but were not welcome/accommodated en masse.)
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:03 PM
 
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Didn't many Irish immigrants settle in Boston?
Earlier era, for the most part. The Irish immigration was what set off the more focused approach such as having all worker-class immigrants funneled through Ellis Island. And the majority went to NY even then.
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Because NY was an immigration port and Bawstun wasn't. Immigrants, especially steerage class, couldn't just disembark anywhere. Ellis Island was, from 1880 to 1920 or so, the only immigrant processing center in the Northeast.

(Simplified; immigrants could come in elsewhere but were not welcome/accommodated en masse.)
I guess the next logical question is why was New York more welcoming and others not as welcoming? As for Ellis Island, Boston had islands too which they could have easily turned into a processing center.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:45 PM
 
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I guess the next logical question is why was New York more welcoming and others not as welcoming? As for Ellis Island, Boston had islands too which they could have easily turned into a processing center.
I suppose there's lots of reasons, starting with that NY was just better suited to being an immigrant gateway and was the premier city in the US at the time. Boston has always been... less welcoming, in your terms.

NY was where all the Atlantic shipping ported, and there were no immigrant ships - just steerage on liners and some freighters. So Ellis Island was built where it would be most useful.
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:15 PM
 
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The Hudson River is the only water passage through the Appalachian mountains. The Catskills and Berkshires are parts of the Appalachians. Combine this with the Mohawk valley connecting the Hudson valley to the plains of western New York, and this is why the Erie Canal was sited where it was. The Erie Canal is what made New York the preeminent commercial city on the east coast. Industry planted there, and jobs followed, as well as immigration. By the time of the late 19th century immigration wave, New York was so huge compared to Boston and other cities that it had its own momentum.
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Old 03-11-2020, 02:53 AM
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Erie Canal
otherwise it would have been New Orleans that took NYCs place. whatever got you to the Mississippi the quickest was going to be the most important city.
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Old 03-11-2020, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I guess the next logical question is why was New York more welcoming and others not as welcoming? As for Ellis Island, Boston had islands too which they could have easily turned into a processing center.
You can also go back to their colonial origins. The Dutch created what became New York as an international trading center, and it has always been a diverse crossroad. Massachusetts was founded by the Puritans who initially only wanted to welcome other Puritans. It was a far more cloistered place.
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:11 AM
 
Location: northern New England
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All 4 of my (European) grandparents immigrated through Boston. As did millions more. Have you ever been to the Boston area? There are ethnic neighborhoods everywhere. Just because there is no Ellis Island...
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