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I think you are on to something. It is getting to be like replacement behavior borne out of frustration that we can't make real progress on problem A (systemic racism, oppression of minorities, etc.) so we attack problem B which is sometimes a symbol of those things (confederate statues) but sometimes not... But the rage and frustration continues. They could be burning down the courthouse and trashing downtown but the statues are an easy target and who really cares if one more confederate general statue bites the dust?
Wikipedia has a list of statues that have been pulled down or removed and the great majority are removed by municipal or government authorities, not by gangs of protesters. City councils or other authorities are preempting the arrival of protesters in some cases by removing the statues. To me that indicates that they knew the statues were seen as offensive but indecision or inertia or some power group kept them from removing them earlier. Most of these statues really have nothing to do with history. Some of the anger is very localized and the target is somebody that no one else ever heard of.
Yes, teddy Roosevelt is a bit odd get onto the wrong side of anger.
Man who was the first to invite black family to White House and insist on having dinner with them?
Who moved America like no one else?
A true hero?
Seriously?
I think you are on to something. It is getting to be like replacement behavior borne out of frustration that we can't make real progress on problem A (systemic racism, oppression of minorities, etc.) so we attack problem B which is sometimes a symbol of those things (confederate statues) but sometimes not... But the rage and frustration continues. They could be burning down the courthouse and trashing downtown but the statues are an easy target and who really cares if one more confederate general statue bites the dust?
Wikipedia has a list of statues that have been pulled down or removed and the great majority are removed by municipal or government authorities, not by gangs of protesters. City councils or other authorities are preempting the arrival of protesters in some cases by removing the statues. To me that indicates that they knew the statues were seen as offensive but indecision or inertia or some power group kept them from removing them earlier. Most of these statues really have nothing to do with history. Some of the anger is very localized and the target is somebody that no one else ever heard of.
Again for the people who are blatantly ignoring what i said......its NOT confederate statues. Its Washington, our first president and the general of the american army during the revolution. Its Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence. Its Grant and Roosevelt. Its the history of our country, not the bad history its all the history. So you can justify it however you want but i doesnt change the fact that the wrong things are being targeted
Again for the people who are blatantly ignoring what i said......its NOT confederate statues. Its Washington, our first president and the general of the american army during the revolution. Its Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence. Its Grant and Roosevelt. Its the history of our country, not the bad history its all the history. So you can justify it however you want but i doesnt change the fact that the wrong things are being targeted
The difference is, the vast amount of people object to the tearing down of the Washington and Jefferson statues, and many, including official governments like St. Augustine last night, are understanding the problem with Confederate monuments or statues, and are removing them.
Anything Confederate needs to be in museums, private places or potentially, some, in cemeteries. None in public places for traitors.
Moving those monuments does not erase history, it only means that they are not honored nor telling descendants from slaves what their place was.
The difference is, the vast amount of people object to the tearing down of the Washington and Jefferson statues, and many, including official governments like St. Augustine last night, are understanding the problem with Confederate monuments or statues, and are removing them.
Anything Confederate needs to be in museums, private places or potentially, some, in cemeteries. None in public places for traitors.
Moving those monuments does not erase history, it only means that they are not honored nor telling descendants from slaves what their place was.
The problem is that (it seems people dont want to acknowledge this) it doesnt seem to matter what the vast majority of people want. The vast majority of people do not want Roosevelt removed from a museum but its happening anyway. The vast majority of people dont want Washington and Jefferson removed from city hall, but there is no vote happening on that, instead a committee appointed by NYC mayor is deciding if Washington and Jefferson are too offensive for city hall.
Yes, double feature for today, just too many offensive statues exist. This second one - yes late rocker Stevie Ray. Probably the greatest guitarist since Jimi.
Why? I suspect he is guilty of the sin of being white and, if not from, then dressed in what appears to be 19th century attire - which is enough to state that he is most certainly a racist and earned the <<bleep>> tag! I actually suspect a Barry Mannilow fan was the culprit, or those scheming fans of elevator music.
Stevie Ray rocks!
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