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Old 12-24-2020, 09:46 PM
 
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Benjamin Franklin owned at various times, at least 2, and possibly 7 slaves. His newspaper also profited from advertising slave sales and slave runaway ad's. However, to his credit, he was also founder and president of the Penn. Abolition Society. He once stated that he felt the black race could do and learn anything as well as the white race could.

Several online articles, and several YouTube videos explain this in more detail.

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Old 12-25-2020, 05:44 AM
 
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Benjamin Franklin owned at various times, at least 2, and possibly 7 slaves. His newspaper also profited from advertising slave sales and slave runaway ad's. However, to his credit, he was also founder and president of the Penn. Abolition Society. He once stated that he felt the black race could do and learn anything as well as the white race could.

Several online articles, and several YouTube videos explain this in more detail.
Let's rename the Benjamin Franklin Bridge the Wokeness Bridge.
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Old 02-16-2021, 06:13 AM
 
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While there has been much self-righteous puffery on the part of the woke renamers, have they ever discussed the African slave tradition? This started at the Barbary Coast and worked its way down through the continent. Those slavers were the ones who peddled slaves to the white slave traders. Does anyone think the slavers ran onto African beaches and just grabbed random people?
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Old 02-16-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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American slavery was unique. It was race based and hereditary. Unlike South American slavery, slaves in the US had no right to marry and no appeal to civil authorities for cruel treatment. It was also unique in that future children of slaves, referred to in wills as "issue" were also part of an inheritance. That brings up another aspect of American slavery: instead of the status of the child passing from father to child, it passed from mother to child.

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Old 02-16-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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American slavery was unique. It was race based and hereditary. Unlike South American slavery, slaves in the US had no right to marry and no appeal to civil authorities for cruel treatment.
Other slavery was cruel, perhaps in a different manner.
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Old 02-16-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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While there has been much self-righteous puffery on the part of the woke renamers, have they ever discussed the African slave tradition? This started at the Barbary Coast and worked its way down through the continent. Those slavers were the ones who peddled slaves to the white slave traders. Does anyone think the slavers ran onto African beaches and just grabbed random people?
Yet many AA pay homage to their ancestors’ homeland that sold them off to the evil white slave traders.
“The rest of the story”.
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Old 02-16-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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Slavery in Africa was very different than slavery in the US. They had in reality no way of knowing this. Slavery in sub- Sahara Africa was in some respects not too different than life in Europe. Girls would be sold for debt payment, not too dissimilar to arranged marriages and the dowery system which existed in colonial America; slaves were part of a client system whereby the slaves were entitled to keep some of their work and sell it, and marriages were permitted - serfs were not freed in part of what is now Germany until after 1800 . This was an improvement over what an indentured servant or a transport would find in colonial VA where so many died, they were literally thrown into trash pits. So many, that in 1654 MD required the registration of burials (An Act Concerning a Register of Births Marriages & Burialls); VA soon followed.

And of course, then there are the colliers of Scotland. Anyone who has been to a Highlands game knows the pride of the Scots even though slavery of colliers was not outlawed until 1775.

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Old 02-16-2021, 06:03 PM
 
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I suppose these people will also want to close the Carnegie libraries and certainly Carnegie Hall must be renamed. And it's time to get rid of New York, named after James Stuart, the Duke of York. A notorious slave trader.

"Royal African Company: How the Stuarts Birthed Britain’s Slave Trade"

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/kin...s-slave-trade/

And rename the streets: "New York Streets Named for Slave Traders"

https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2018...slave-traders/

I guess we don't have to change the name of Hawaii, although the US history there is shameful. Maybe we should restore the monarchy.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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And don't forget to tear down MIT. William Rogers who formed MIT was a slaveowner whilst he was at the University of VA.

https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-class-...s-slavery-0212
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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And don't forget to tear down MIT. William Rogers who formed MIT was a slaveowner whilst he was at the University of VA.

https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-class-...s-slavery-0212
I forgot all about that. How about tearing down the Washington Monument?
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