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Old 12-18-2020, 05:36 AM
 
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Any opinions on the recent DNA results for King Tut's family? This is from October. Some say it confirms the DNA results from a few years back that connected Tut to some Europeans genetically.

Tut's Y-DNA was R1B and mtdna was K. Both are associated with being Caucasian/Eurasian.

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An investigative study was carried out on the familial relationships of a number of late 18th dynasty mummies (ca. 1550–1295 b.c.), including that of Tutankhamen. The study was based on the analysis of the autosomal and Y-chromosome STR markers in addition to mitochondrial hypervariable region 1 sequences. A 4-generation pedigree of Tutankhamun’s immediate lineage and the identity of his ancestors were established. The Royal male lineage was the Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b that was passed from the grandparent (Amenhotep III) to the father (KV55, Akhenaten) to the grandchild (Tutankhamen). The maternal lineage, the mitochondrial haplogroup K, extended from the great-grandmother (Thuya) to the grandmother (KV35 Elder lady, Queen Tiye) to the yet historically unidentified mother (KV35 Younger lady) to Tutankhamen (38,55).

https://academic.oup.com/hmg/advance...daa223/5924364
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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Last I heard, it was believed the European haplogroups were the result of contamination, because Tut's remains (and others) were handled so much before DNA was available.

But R1b isn't exclusively "European" and Egypt isn't exactly Sub-Saharan - here's an old world distribution map of R1b

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Old 12-18-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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King Tut's Eurasian genetic background may be supported by the straight hair found on the mummy of his grandmother Queen Tiye.


King Tut's grandmother Queen Tiye:

https://images.app.goo.gl/3XPTT37gzUfsY7Tm9
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Old 12-20-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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Last I heard, it was believed the European haplogroups were the result of contamination, because Tut's remains (and others) were handled so much before DNA was available.

But R1b isn't exclusively "European" and Egypt isn't exactly Sub-Saharan - here's an old world distribution map of R1b


I've read that as well. At this point, I would not suspect contamination by Europeans in the recent tests. Why? because the DNA found showed familial relationships across 4 generations of males and females.
The only way that could happen is if the European mummy handling team consisted of only of relatives from great-grandfathers/mothers down through to the great-grandchildren both male and female, and each generation only handled their corresponding generation of mummies.
https://academic.oup.com/hmg/advance...daa223/5924364
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Old 12-20-2020, 04:47 PM
 
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Another thing about the contamination possibility. Since the Abusir tests from 2017 they've learned how to get around contamination with these current testing methods.

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The latest analysis succeeded by bypassing soft tissue — often abundant in Egyptian mummies — to seek DNA from bone and teeth. Researchers carefully screened the DNA to rule out contamination from anyone who had handled the mummies since their excavation a century ago in the ancient town of Abusir el-Meleq.

https://www.nature.com/news/mummy-dn...cestry-1.22069
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Old 01-01-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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How much did outsiders affect the makeup of the ancient Egyptian population?

Back in 2017 when the Abusir mummy results came out people were debating how much of those DNA results were reflecting the different outside groups who had ruled ancient Egypt?

So where can I read any research that deals with how much outside groups affected ancient Egypt's population over it's history?
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Old 01-04-2021, 09:19 PM
 
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Any opinions on the recent DNA results for King Tut's family? This is from October. Some say it confirms the DNA results from a few years back that connected Tut to some Europeans genetically.

Tut's Y-DNA was R1B and mtdna was K. Both are associated with being Caucasian/Eurasian.
What would you have expected Tut to be since North Africans (not sub Saharan's) and Eurasians are Caucasian?
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Old 01-05-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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Why was the map I provided removed? If it was too big or something, it could have been replaced with a link at least...

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con..._R1b_World.png
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Why was the map I provided removed? If it was too big or something, it could have been replaced with a link at least...

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That's weird, it wasn't appearing for me, even after reloading the page. It wasn't even showing a broken link icon. Now it's magically back. Well, at least the link is there now in case anyone else is having trouble loading it.
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