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Old 07-17-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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The headline might stay you've never heard of them - but in the History forum you probably have.

But you still might like the dialogue.


A conversation between a liberal and a conservative: Our favorite presidents you’ve never heard of
With Gail Collins and Bret Stephens

"America would have been better off if Henry Clay had defeated Polk in the extremely close election of 1844."

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2021/ju...a-conservativ/
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Old 07-18-2021, 06:14 AM
 
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The headline might stay you've never heard of them - but in the History forum you probably have.

But you still might like the dialogue.


A conversation between a liberal and a conservative: Our favorite presidents you’ve never heard of
With Gail Collins and Bret Stephens

"America would have been better off if Henry Clay had defeated Polk in the extremely close election of 1844."

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2021/ju...a-conservativ/
A link complaining about Trump and how Biden saved us.
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Old 07-18-2021, 07:40 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If I have to remind anybody that the History forum is not the place to discuss the current or the immediate past President or administration, somebody will regret not reading the forum rules.
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Old 07-21-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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A link complaining about Trump and how Biden saved us.
Yes, it does mention Trump in passing - it's not unusual to refer to today when discussing yesterday - but that is NOT what the bulk of the article is about.
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Old 07-22-2021, 04:19 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If I have to remind anybody that the History forum is not the place to discuss the current or the immediate past President or administration, somebody will regret not reading the forum rules.
Is there something unclear about this? We have no need to see the names of the current or immediate past President anywhere in the History forum. When that has happened in the past, we quickly saw people's political views. I did not sign on to moderate political arguments.
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Moving along...Okiedoke -- here are the first 40 (individuals) who served as president...up to Bush41...Cleaveland served twice. Obscurity comes in many forms. William Henry Harrison did almost nothing as President but is remembered because he died almost immediately. Polk was a one termer and not a household name but his impact was huge. When we think of presidential assassinations we think of JFK and Lincoln but seldom think of James Garfield (shot but lingered 3 months) and William McKinley (shot but lingered 9 days). My candidate is Millard Fillmore who served three years after the death of Zachary Taylor. His name is known mostly as an example of an obscure president. He was followed by Franklin Pierce, who ranks on the list of worst presidents. Then came James Buchanan who is considered by many to be the actual worst, at least of the 1800s. Taft, a one-termer, is squeezed in between Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson (both two-termers) so he seems like a dim bulb but he was president when the 16th amendment was passed creating the income tax. He is known as the fattest president weighing in at about 350 pounds.


1 George Washington 1789 – 1797
2 John Adams 1797 – 1801
3 Thomas Jefferson 1801 – 1809
4 James Madison 1809 – 1817
5 James Monroe 1817 – 1825
6 John Quincy Adams 1825 – 1829
7 Andrew Jackson 1829 – 1837
8 Martin van Buren 1837 – 1841
9 William Henry Harrison 1841
10 John Tyler 1841 – 1845
11 James Polk 1845 – 1849
12 Zachary Taylor 1849 – 1850
13 Millard Fillmore 1850 – 1853
14 Franklin Pierce 1853 – 1857
15 James Buchanan 1857 – 1861
16 Abraham Lincoln 1861 – 1865
17 Andrew Johnson 1865 – 1869
18 Ulysses S. Grant 1869 – 1877
19 Rutherford B. Hayes 1877 – 1881
20 James Abram Garfield 1881
21 Chester Alan Arthur 1881 – 1885
22 Grover Cleveland 1885 – 1889
23 Benjamin Harrison 1889 – 1893
24 Grover Cleveland 1893 – 1897
25 William McKinley 1897 – 1901
26 Theodore Roosevelt 1901 – 1909
27 William Howard Taft 1909 – 1913
28 Woodrow (Thomas) Wilson 1913 – 1921
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding 1921 – 1923
30 Calvin (John) Coolidge 1923 – 1929
31 Herbert Clark Hoover 1929 – 1933
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt 1933 – 1945
33 Harry S. Truman 1945 – 1953
34 Dwight (David) Eisenhower 1953 – 1961
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy 1961 – 1963
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963 – 1969
37 Richard Milhouse Nixon 1969 – 1974
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford 1974 – 1977
39 Jimmy Carter 1977 – 1981
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan 1981 – 1989
41 George Herbert Walker Bush 1989 – 1993
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Old 07-26-2021, 05:58 PM
 
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"America would have been better off if Henry Clay had defeated Polk in the extremely close election of 1844."
Ok ... so why would America be better off if Henry Clay had defeated Polk?
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Old 07-26-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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Martin Van Buren spoke English as a second language.
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Just by becoming President means that they're not "obscure" (at least in the US). It's a very small and selective club.

Some did great transformational things while others maintained the status quo. Some made mistakes of either omission or commission (Buchanan) that became costly later.

Some have reputations greater than their actual accomplishments warrant (Kennedy) while others aren't given enough credit for their impact (Polk).
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:48 PM
 
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When I was a kid, I had to do a report on Grover Cleveland and the only thing I remember is he won his terms with a term in between another president.

Then Chester A Arther from die hard with a vengeance. When Bruce Wallace is driving with that truck driver who is annoying him with trivia and and then he spouts off the answer to the terrorists riddle since he knows Chester A Arther and it helps them narrow down where the school bomb is. I know absolutely nothing about his presidency other than his name.
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